Recruiting Football Talk VII

[smokeyhuntsgators]

 

[Smokey123]

You’re right I exaggerated that, but apparently they are no different with their backup QB than with Jordan Travis and are still one of the best 4 teams in the country.

Did they lose a game with their backup?

Maybe I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure both Texas and Bama lost a game with their starting QB

 

[mrMet]

Better Players != Better Product

You can put a who’s who of actors together and the resulting movie or show still be trash.

Mets had some of the best players money could buy this year. How did that product look?

Ahh i see you are moving goalposts now. When the facts don’t fit the narrative, move the goalposts to fit the narrative. Love it

 

[pierce60]

Based off what? Their 13-0 conference champ? Maybe it was their elite front with a top 10 defense? Or maybe it was having one of the top RB’s and WR cores in CFB. Yea they suck

I’ve never said they suck. I just said they are not currently one of the best 4 teams in the country right now.

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

This whole forum isn’t surprised by these comments under the circumstances of who got in and what had to happen

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Pawl licking Saban’s toilet bowl as usual. Pawl will always be in the evil elf’s corner.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Not me, but some are arguing that his backup who went 12-25 for 134 yards against Florida was going to lead them to the National Title.

Joe Milton was 11-21 for 141 against Vandy last year.

He had similar numbers against Clemson, right?

 

[pierce60]

Did they lose a game with their backup?

Maybe I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure both Texas and Bama lost a game with their starting QB

No. I’m not arguing their record, I’m just arguing that they are not one of the best 4 teams in the country right now.

 

[tnhunter 10]

Pre season rankings should dissappear and teams should not start being ranked until week 5.

 

[PKT_VOL]

Misinterpreting excitement and chaos for quality isn’t hard.

You may like college better, and that’s fine. But the product on the field isn’t even close to the same

Quality of the players is not synonymous with the quality of the overall product. More goes into the overall product than the individual players.

The NFL is a soulless, amorphous entity. Its major appeal is that you can turn on a game and expect a roughly homogeneous product as background entertainment. Fantasy has been a godsend for getting the general public to consistently watch.

 

[Smokey123]

Cfb is the only sport in the entire world where winning your games don’t matter anymore. All about analytics and “eye test”

 

[Glitch]

So you think that FSU would beat Alabama on a neutral field if they played tomorrow (with FSU's QB on ice)?

They wouldn't have to play for close to a month and FSU's backup is as good or better than Milroe and FSU's defense is MUCH better than Bama's.

 

[LoudOrange]

@skasper06

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It's that time of year again!

Sounds like a sequel to Planes, Trains and Automobiles.

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

No. I’m not arguing their record, I’m just arguing that they are not one of the best 4 teams in the country right now.

Based on what? FSU has passed every test since Travis got hurt. We can assume they aren’t one of the four best, but on the field, they’ve done nothing to confirm that assumption. Neither win was a thing of beauty, but Alabama’s wins over pedestrian teams like Auburn, Arkansas, and A&M weren’t things of beauty either.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Cfb is the only sport in the entire world where winning your games don’t matter anymore. All about analytics and “eye test”

The playoff was supposed to rectify that. Maybe the 12-team one will.

 

[thistime]

Eleven Conference Champions, then the next 5 best teams determined by a computer that takes Strength of schedule, overall record and what ever else makes it fair. Turn twelve of the silly Bowls into playoff games. Reduce the season by 1 or 2 games by doing away with the pay to win games and let them play. Simple....Real Champion.

 

[mrMet]

Quality of the players is not synonymous with the quality of the overall product. More goes into the overall product than the individual players.

The NFL is a soulless, amorphous entity. Its major appeal is that you can turn on a game and expect a roughly homogeneous product as background entertainment. Fantasy has been a godsend for getting the general public to consistently watch.

It’s better football. There’s no denying it. you enjoy the chaos of college. I enjoy the quality of a nfl game

 

[Smokey123]

No. I’m not arguing their record, I’m just arguing that they are not one of the best 4 teams in the country right now.

So actually winning your games doesn’t matter anymore? How is UM, Osu, uga and Bama not the 4 teams in rn then?

 

[thistime]

and raise ticket prices after ONE great season

PAY THESE PRICES AND PAY NO MORE.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Based on what? FSU has passed every test since Travis got hurt. We can assume they aren’t one of the four best, but on the field, they’ve done nothing to confirm that assumption. Neither win was a thing of beauty, but Alabama’s wins over pedestrian teams like Auburn, Arkansas, and A&M weren’t things of beauty either.

It’s special pleading all the way down.

 

[mrMet]

Cfb is the only sport in the entire world where winning your games don’t matter anymore. All about analytics and “eye test”

But people will say college is better than nfl

 

[pierce60]

Joe Milton was 11-21 for 141 against Vandy last year.

He had similar numbers against Clemson, right?

No. But Joe Milton had also thrown more than 118 passes in his 4 year college football career and been the starter at multiple Power 5 programs…Tate Rodemaker, not so much.

 

[Weezer]

Context matters. Not all conferences and schedules are the same. I'll take 4-1 (with one win being UGA and the loss being Texas) vs 2-0 against top 25 teams.

You are kidding yourself if you don't believe the two best teams in the nation weren't playing in Mercedes-Benz Stadium yesterday. To deny that, is just letting your Bama/UGA hate override your rational brain.

As a diehard UT fan, I'd be more upset if I felt UT was a better team being left out vs a "deserving" team which wasn't as good relative to the competition.

Not convinced Bama and Georgia are the two best teams. That's SEC bias on your part. I'm not convinced Bama could beat Texas now, after losing to them already. I'm not sure how Michigan or Washington match up against Bama. Not sure how you can just declare Bama and Georgia are the best when they haven't proven it on the field.

 

[knoxvol52]

Quality of the players is not synonymous with the quality of the overall product. More goes into the overall product than the individual players.

The NFL is a soulless, amorphous entity. Its major appeal is that you can turn on a game and expect a roughly homogeneous product as background entertainment. Fantasy has been a godsend for getting the general public to consistently watch.

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

It’s special pleading all the way down.

It’s Saban getting what he wants by dishonest means, and some people are too blind to see it or are willing to accept corruption.

 

[Glitch]

According to their resume, they are.

Resumes don't matter. It is simply a subjective snapshot of a team at the end of the season that determines the CFP. Winning every single one of your regular season games and your conference playoff are meaningless.