Recruiting Football Talk VII

[mr.checkerboards]

He will kick NC States azz!!!

Lol, not with the lack of reps he got this year. They are a decent defensive team.
NCST
OU
UF
A very winnable 3 game stretch we will go 1-2 at best due to Nicos lack of live reps.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

You have DS, and it shows.

Show me the G5 players that have jumped levels and done well? More P5 players have jumped to better situations then G5 players jumping and doing well.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Joe was always going to play in the bowl game. CJH has said all year this is Joe's team and he's stuck to it. Won't change now unless Joe decides to opt-out, which he has given zero indication he's even considering.

Very happy with where we stand with Heupel after three years. Just to be clear.

But the biggest weakness has to be the almost unbelievable inability or unwillingness to prioritize the development of young players that are currently on the roster. Can't speak for Sunday-Friday but at least on Saturday. They said on the VQ pod that not a single offensive lineman recruited under Heupel out of high school has played a meaningful snap. The closest being Addison Nichols last week against Vandy. That boggles the mind. Senior walk ons playing DB while talented freshmen sit on the bench. Boggles the mind.

They need to tell Joe in no uncertain terms that his path to improving his draft stock will go through his pro day and combine performance. It is mildly concerning if Joe starts that game, simply because no one benefits. Not Joe and not the team next year. The only reasons would be Joe wanting to milk out every possible game he can, even at the potential of his draft stock, and Heupel being unwilling to do the hard thing that needs to be done for the future. Which is to tell Joe in no uncertain terms he needs to start preparing for the draft.

I have no doubt Joe gives us the best chance to win... Who cares. This isn't a playoff game, it won't even be a NY6 game. Time to be forward looking here guys...

 

[knoxvol52]

Mark Cuban is going to sale majority ownership of Mavericks for 3.5 Billion dollars....

Lol he bought the team for 285 million ...nice little profit..

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Yep. Nico gets better every game. Wish he'd had more live reps this year. And I wish they'd do halves in the bowl game. That's really not CJH's style, but one can hope. The younger guys are ready to work.

It’s beyond frustrating because we need to see how these kids do with live reps and not just hope they all develop. We have seen how some haven’t come along and it hurt us.

 

[drvenner]

Since Heupel hates Nico we should take KJ Jefferson.

You seem to be the only one saying this. Maybe that should tell you something. With anyone else, I would assume sarcasm. With you, not so much.

 

[butchna]

Mark Cuban is going to sale majority ownership of Mavericks for 3.5 Billion dollars....

Lol he bout the team for 285 million ...nice little profit..

To a casino family. But he’s still retaining majority control, so he’s not going anywhere…leaving Shark Tank tho.

 

[TrippieRedd]

Show me the G5 players that have jumped levels and done well? More P5 players have jumped to better situations then G5 players jumping and doing well.

idk it’s like the best RB in the country came from a D2 school.

Carson Steele played well
Devontez Walker
Braden Fiske
Andre Carter
Jamari Thrash

Want me to keep going? If not, go sit in a corner

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Except he also said Joe didn’t play well.

It’s on you if you think Joe Milton sucks bc he’s not HH. He’s a decent QB. Nothing more, nothing less. Couldn’t overcome any deficiencies that HH could mask.

Where did I say that? Don’t back track now. I never once compared him to hendon. He’s an average at best QB who is lucky he plays in our style of play. Love him to being a VFL and giving his all, but you can’t sit a phenom QB now when he needs all the reps he can get. We have two more seasons with Nico. Unless we get real lucky.

 

[drvenner]

Love reps are invaluable,.

TWSS

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

It's unfortunate too.
Love reps are invaluable, the offense probably looks like crap against NCST next year because it's the first real reps Nico is going to get. Already building in excuses for next year.

They don't play NC State 1st

 

[mrMet]

Love our graphics department.

What was dudes name that is a Vol fan but works for Tulane I think it was?

 

[LA Vol]

It's unfortunate too.
Love reps are invaluable, the offense probably looks like crap against NCST next year because it's the first real reps Nico is going to get. Already building in excuses for next year.

Agree that more live reps would have been very productive, and it's unfortunate that didn't happen, but this staff sticks to their philosophies. They play the veterans while developing the younger talent, and CJH staffs to promote from within. They value experience, prioritize stability and reward loyalty, and while that could change, it has not.

 

[GVol1966]

It’s really easy with money. You’re correct, good job! That’s the only intelligent thing you said in your post.

Quit being an idiot. You’re literally embarrassing yourself. NIL for a reason.

Sure bud. I’m the one embarrassing myself .

Really easy with money. Shhhhhh! Don’t tell any of the other teams.

They’ll start using money too!! .

up until now the personality of Nick and Kirby has been too much, just think if they start using money!

 

[drvenner]

What was dudes name that is a Vol fan but works for Tulane I think it was?

@Geaux_Vols

 

[mr.checkerboards]

They don't play NC State 1st

I know but crap games against whatever FCS school we play first don't mean anything.

 

[GVol1966]

It won't be Moore, it will be a transfer.

Navy

 

[mr.checkerboards]

idk it’s like the best RB in the country came from a D2 school.

Carson Steele played well
Devontez Walker
Braden Fiske
Andre Carter
Jamari Thrash

Want me to keep going? If not, go sit in a corner

Velus Jones
Bru McCoy
Don't Thorton(was coming into his own before the injury)
Omar Norman Lott
Kamal Hadden
Krajc(idk how to spell it, played well before injury.)
Gerald Mincey
John Campbell

For every lower level guy you can name, I can find multiple P5 guys, the ones I named were just Vols.

Go away troll.

 

[TrippieRedd]

Velus Jones
Bru McCoy
Don't Thorton(was coming into his own before the injury)
Omar Norman Lott
Kamal Hadden
Krajc(idk how to spell it, played well before injury.)
Gerald Mincey
John Campbell

For every lower level guy you can name, I can find multiple P5 guys, the ones I named were just Vols.

Go away troll.

You said name G5 guys that have done well. I did. I even said I’d name more lmaoooo

You’re mad because I did just that.

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

I know but crap games against whatever FCS school we play first don't mean anything.

Lmao...you whine and moan about live reps but yet the 1st games doesn't count...lol

 

[mrMet]

@Geaux_Vols

Yes thanks. Wonder how he’s doing

 

[LA Vol]

It’s beyond frustrating because we need to see how these kids do with live reps and not just hope they all develop. We have seen how some haven’t come along and it hurt us.

I agree more live reps would have been productive for the younger talent and the team, but this staff works how they work. I think the season got away from them a bit. They expected it to go one way, which would have meant more PT for some of the younger guys-- especially Nico-- but some games went sideways. CJH probably wishes Nico would've gotten more reps throughout the season. And yes, some of the guys have developed slowly.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Lol Ainge. You mean a former QB defending a QB? Same one who said JG was awesome. That Ainge?

Ainge said JG was good in practice and had ability. He also said that when the defense disguises things/gave him different looks he got confused and had no idea what to do.

He has also said similar things about Joe.

So what are you talking about? If someone is great in practice you shouldn't say they're great in practice?

Go call the Ainge show and debate him! That would be hilarious!

 

[RudyVol]

Milton is out of eligibility. This was his 6th year.

He can petition for another.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Now that’s a move I could get behind. But realistically he probably goes to a lower tier school and starts.

We want KJ Jefferson to agree to be our back up?