Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

so was he solid or systemically coddled

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Exactly. Thanks for being a VFL but it’s time to move to the future.

 

[Jimmy Football]

I don’t necessarily think that’s the case, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it were. So I’ll concede.

if that is the case, it comes down to what matters to Joe. Does he want a minor payday, or to play one more real game? The risks are there, but if he would regret not going out there one more time for the rest of his life then it still isn’t worth taking the safe route. If I were him, it’s hard to say what I’d do. I think I’d rather play, but that’s with my financial situation and family. I don’t know his, but I’d assume he’s made enough at Tennessee to make him secure in his decision.

Like I said, I can’t fault him for wanting to play.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Again, that’s not a rebuttal to my point. It’s just a straw man. But I’ll play. I’ve said it’s not a fireable offense, not a ceiling. People like you who have sky high standards are the reason we couldn’t even sniff 8-4 for 15 years. Demanding to be Alabama or Georgia every year is a good way to become Kentucky every year instead.

TN has everything to be one of those programs.

 

[Neyland Law Vol]

They rushed two guys and kept a 3rd to spy.

They had a second layer of 3 guys doing absolutely NOTHING.

Then had 5 in the end zone. Bama also had 5 in the end zone.

They win 99% of the time if they rush 6 and drop 5 at the goal line. Milroe would have about 2.5 seconds and no one is running 40 yards into the end zone. I bet he would have just chucked it up and it probably get's picked or falls short on the ground.

This play by Bama against Auburn was similar to what UF faced the last play in Neyland 2022 after they got the onside kick. TN decided to rush 5/6 and got to the QB and forced a bad throw that resulted in an INT. That is what Auburn should have done also.

 

[Volator]

I still haven’t stopped shaking my head at Auburn letting Milroe camp out in the pocket and then letting Bond catch that pass.

I would have thought rush 2 or 3; play man to man on their 5 receivers; then have 3 in the end zone (in thirds). Take a dpi if needed because that is only 15 yards.

 

[Christian Lowe]

TN has everything to be one of those programs.

So does Florida, LSU, A&M and everyone else who’s fired coaches for 8-4 years and been far worse for it.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

This play is similar to what UF had the last play in Neyland 2022. TN decided to rush 5/6 and got to the QB and forced a bad throw that resulted in an INT. That is what Auburn should have done also.

I will never understand coaches who choose to rush 2 or 3 in that situation. You know they need time to get downfield, don't let them have it.

 

[Vols410]

so was he solid or systemically coddled

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Also a ridiculous testament to Heupel's offense. Those numbers are actually solid and they're the worst he's seen from a full-time starter. 20 TDs to 5 INTs with 8 YPA? Those numbers should absolutely do the job when your running game is averaging 200+, but penalties destroyed drives this year.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

So does Florida, LSU, A&M and everyone else who’s fired coaches for 8-4 years and been far worse for it.

Which of those coaches have proven they deserved to stay at their jobs?

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

He will get that next season. The bowl could help, but in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t matter that much. It sure didn’t help Cade Klubnik getting a start against us for his next season.

Couldn’t disagree more. And Cade lol. Comparing Cade and Nico is comical. The offensive coaching at Clemson is offensive.

 

[seaofORANGE22]

TN has everything to be one of those programs.

Yeah but you also just have to recruit well enough to get there. Its not just resources. Gotta find players and build depth over time and it takes awhile when you absolutely suck at the beginning.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Yeah but you also just have to recruit well enough to get there. Its not just resources. Gotta find players and build depth over time and it takes awhile when you absolutely suck at the beginning.

RS your first class and build from there. By year 5 you should know what a coach is.

 

[BigSteve09]

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

This makes no sense. I’ve seen posters here say it 100% makes or breaks the 2024 season. 2024’s record hinges on a bowl game in December 2023.

It makes zero sense that people do not understand playing is the best way to grow. It does not necessarily make or break next year, but it sure as hell helps his growth and seeing the game at full speed as a starter.

It is a big adjustment going from high school to college. I played in college and the best way to grow is being on the field.

 

[Christian Lowe]

Which of those coaches have proven they deserved to stay at their jobs?

Les Miles, bucktooth, and Kevin Sumlin didn’t do nearly enough to warrant firing to any sane person. Hell, bucktooth horse face won the East more times than he didn’t and still got fired. It was insanity.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Agreed. That orange bowl performance didn't have much to do with how this season went. It was still fun though

He had been in college five years. Lol

He didn’t need the reps. He had them already lol

 

[Christian Lowe]

Couldn’t disagree more. And Cade lol. Comparing Cade and Nico is comical. The offensive coaching at Clemson is offensive.

They didn’t do much worse offensively than we did this season. Granted, Cade was a 5 star and we had Milton lol

 

[volfan411]

I guarantee you that all the guys in here dismissing the bowl game will be the first in line to bitch and whine and take a huge stinky dump on Heup if we lose.

 

[csprig9]

I guarantee you that all the guys in here dismissing the bowl game will be the first in line to bitch and whine and take a huge stinky dump on Heup if we lose.

Yep

 

[rikberry31]

no reason to have the championship game anymore, really

Most of the time they defacto playoff games anyway.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Les Miles, bucktooth, and Kevin Sumlin didn’t do nearly enough to warrant firing to any sane person. Hell, bucktooth horse face won the East more times than he didn’t and still got fired. It was insanity.

Nebraksa fired Bo Pelini, and he never won less than 9 games in 8 seasons. It’s really worked out well for them.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Les Miles, bucktooth, and Kevin Sumlin didn’t do nearly enough to warrant firing to any sane person. Hell, bucktooth horse face won the East more times than he didn’t and still got fired. It was insanity.

Napier is out recruiting Mullen by a mile, Dan wasn't getting better.
Sumlin proved he deserved to stay by going to Arizona and getting fired.
Miles had other issues besides the fact that he hadn't won the West in 5 years. CFB was changing and he wasnt.

 

[Christian Lowe]

Napier is out recruiting Mullen by a mile, Dan wasn't getting better.
Sumlin proved he deserved to stay by going to Arizona and getting fired.
Miles had other issues besides the fact that he hadn't won the West in 5 years. CFB was changing and he wasnt.

Not talking about Mullen. Arixona has nothing to do with A&M. That’s the same argument we used for Fulmer, worked out great.

 

[Vols410]

RS your first class and build from there. By year 5 you should know what a coach is.

Lol Checkerboards gets his coaching expertise from playing NCAA 14. Nice.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I must be easy to please. Cause im happier than a three peckered puppy we won 8 games.

-Mayo boy is a fraud
- Jimbo got canned
- Lesser Stoops had second coming of Levis, and lost
- Vandy is vandy