2024 Presidential Race

[SlipKidVol]

Kroger is union? That seems surprising. I shop at Kroger regularly and one gets a distinct impression that their employees are not well paid, not
to mention the fact that the company and its stores are constantly in a hiring mode. I'll have to ask one of the cashiers about this.

shows your level of connection with the real world

 

[turbovol]

shows your level of connection with the real world

Does it? You're reaching, Earl.

 

[SlipKidVol]

Does it? You're reaching, Earl.

yes, you make this assumption by how you view the employees.

 

[turbovol]

yes, you make this assumption by how you view the employees.

You're not making any sense, pal. I'm friendly with a few Kroger employees but know nothing about their specific employment situation
except that they're not making much money. That has long been the case for all retail employees--they're underpaid. What's more,
very few retail employees are unionized. Your suggestion that I should somehow discern whether they're unionized or not because I shop there is crazy.

 

[turbovol]

"Donald is out for Donald, period. All he wants to do is appeal to his base. He has no principles. None. None."-

—Maryanne Trump Barry, the gangster's sister, who just died.

 

[turbovol]

And this....

Maryanne Trump Barry has died.She famously told her niece Mary Trump, that her younger brother had someone take his SATs for him, and she also said this:“It's the phoniness of it all. It's the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel.”

 

[SlipKidVol]

You're not making any sense, pal. I'm friendly with a few Kroger employees but know nothing about their specific employment situation
except that they're not making much money. That has long been the case for all retail employees--they're underpaid. What's more,
very few retail employees are unionized. Your suggestion that I should somehow discern whether they're unionized or not because I shop there is crazy.

you said nothing about knowing any employees, you stated I shop at Kroger regularly and one gets a distinct impression that their employees are not well paid

 

[Vol since 77]

He's not in this to be funny or show us how he can make money. He's here to tell us how he would run the country were he President. This one was not very well thought out. If he'd said something like "I intend to cut fed workers by 50%. I will hire the best people to do a thorough analysis and determine where the fat is..." I'd be more impressed.

Then there's his idiotic idea of building a 5,000 mile fence on the northern border. He made Trump sound like the adult in the room:

Vivek Ramaswamy idea for US-Canada border wall labelled 'extreme'

The Republican argued the US should build a wall on the Canadian border to halt the flow of fentanyl.

www.bbc.com

This guy is not in any way ready to be President

I don't disagree and won't be voting for Vivek, but will point out that none of the last 3 POTUS' were "ready to be President".

 

[Sea Ray]

And this....

Maryanne Trump Barry has died.She famously told her niece Mary Trump, that her younger brother had someone take his SATs for him, and she also said this:“It's the phoniness of it all. It's the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel.”

She's not squeaky clean herself. In fact it appears that she approved of things her brother did if it padded her bank account

She stepped down from the bench after The Times found that the Trumps had engaged in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s to increase the inherited wealth of Mr. Trump and his siblings. Judge Barry not only benefited financially from most of these schemes, The Times found; she was also in a position to influence the actions taken by her family.

At the time, she had been listed as an inactive-senior judge for two years. Her retirement mooted the court investigation, since retired judges are not subject to judicial conduct rules.

Maryanne Trump Barry, Donald Trump’s Older Sister, Dies at 86

A retired federal judge in New Jersey, she supported her brother but, as secret audio recordings revealed in 2019, she could also be scathingly critical of him.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Sea Ray]

I don't disagree and won't be voting for Vivek, but will point out that none of the last 3 POTUS' were "ready to be President".

Point well taken. Us voters have been given crappy choices for quite awhile now

 

[volfanhill]

you said nothing about knowing any employees, you stated I shop at Kroger regularly and one gets a distinct impression that their employees are not well paid

He's having a hard time reconciling his belief system with his own reality. He can't fathom how a union shop could be full of employees who do not care and have a disorganized store. Head firmly up his own bleep hole

 

[AM64]

Vivek is now officially done as a candidate. If his behavior at the last debate didn't sink him, this idiotic idea will:

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Haley and DeSantis must be thanking their lucky stars that this guy turned out to be an idiot. I guess his SS number ends in an even number

It's not a bad idea in a way, but two bad things would happen. The feds would quit working, and the place would collapse. Like it or not the feds have us in their grip in so many ways, and that keeps them in business. Very very simple example, foreign travel isn't just a luxury vacation, but you can't do foreign travel without a passport, and the feds put expiration dates on those, so at any time there are always people who need to get a passport or renewal on an expedited basis for business. AND the economy would collapse with DC in shut down.

The guy is playing a Walter Mitty game with the masses. These things are fun, but not what you build a relationship on. I'd rate him far less capable and qualified for the position than Trump.

 

[AM64]

And another UAW plant shoots down the contract, this time the Ford plant in Louisville. So that is 3 GM and 1 Ford factory that's voted it down so far that I know of.

Ford Production Workers Vote Against Labor Deal. Doubts Are Creeping In.

Has anybody said why the contracts have been rejected; I'm not seeing it in the articles. Seems like it would be either workers want more, or workers figure it was too good and unsustainable for the companies ... and their jobs won't last long. Nobody seems to be saying which one it is or if it's something else.

 

[AM64]

Kroger is union? That seems surprising. I shop at Kroger regularly and one gets a distinct impression that their employees are not well paid, not
to mention the fact that the company and its stores are constantly in a hiring mode. I'll have to ask one of the cashiers about this.

Go right ahead and ask. Kroger cashiers are surly because they are union ... not because they are underpaid. Haven't been to Kroger in years, and I'm happier for it. Kroger lost out to other grocers and moved their uncompetitive azz out of Chattanooga before the turn of the century as I recall.

 

[AM64]

Point well taken. Us voters have been given crappy choices for quite awhile now

Takes a lot of money and being arrogant enough to believe that the person is important enough to overcome the sins of the past on the road to wealth and power. Most people in the US don't have the position or the ego required to think they are that good.

 

[hog88]

Has anybody said why the contracts have been rejected; I'm not seeing it in the articles. Seems like it would be either workers want more, or workers figure it was too good and unsustainable for the companies ... and their jobs won't last long. Nobody seems to be saying which one it is or if it's something else.

No clue, I haven't seen any explanation for the rejection but I doubt it's because the union members think its "too good and unsustainable". I haven't met any union guys yet that gave a flip about the companies future.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[AM64]

No clue, I haven't seen any explanation for the rejection but I doubt it's because the union members think its "too good and unsustainable". I haven't met any union guys yet that gave a flip about the companies future.

I'd agree. Most don't appear to be deep thinkers. I remember sitting in a breakroom at Three Mile Island during the installation of a system we sold and having to listen to the conversations around us - had to be escorted so the union instrumentation guys were stuck with us during their breaks too. The whining over work rules (basically having to actually do something) was world class. If those guys worked as hard at the job as avoiding the job ...

 

[hog88]

I'd agree. Most don't appear to be deep thinkers. I remember sitting in a breakroom at Three Mile Island during the installation of a system we sold and having to listen to the conversations around us - had to be escorted so the union instrumentation guys were stuck with us during their breaks too. The whining over work rules (basically having to actually do something) was world class. If those guys worked as hard at the job as avoiding the job ...

We did a lot of work at the Peterbilt plant when it was in Madison. I was impressed with how little work they could do during a shift, had to take practice.

 

[AM64]

We did a lot of work at the Peterbilt plant when it was in Madison. I was impressed with how little work they could do during a shift, had to take practice.

I'm of the opinion that union workers are so miserable because they work so hard at avoiding work they never get any satisfaction for doing a job well.

 

[benholt06]

"Donald is out for Donald, period. All he wants to do is appeal to his base. He has no principles. None. None."-

—Maryanne Trump Barry, the gangster's sister, who just died.

Hard to con your own family. They know you better than anybody. As for the rest of these fools, that’s a different story.

 

[volfanhill]

2/3

 

[Carl Pickens]

This is a prime example of liberal pussification

Trump Campaign Doubles Down: It’s Totally Fine That He Called His Enemies ‘Vermin’

Historians said Trump echoed a term used by Hitler and Mussolini. A campaign spokesperson called the former president's critics "snowflakes"

news.yahoo.com

The speech prompted reactions from historians, including John Meacham, who said Monday on MSNBC’s Morning Joe that Trump is “lifting” rhetoric from Mussolini and other historic fascists. “And from the Third Reich, and using the 1930s as an example of anything is a fraught enterprise,” Meacham added. “Because to call your opponent vermin, to dehumanize them, is to not only open the door, but to walk through the door toward the most ghastly kinds of crimes.”

How big of a poon do you have to be to think this way?

 

[Carl Pickens]

We did a lot of work at the Peterbilt plant when it was in Madison. I was impressed with how little work they could do during a shift, had to take practice.

There were a lot of good poker players and picket line sitters employed there.
They knew they were the last union plant Peterbuilt had and were dumb enough to keep going on strike over and over….. until….. poof!

 

[DC_Vol]

This is a prime example of liberal pussification

Trump Campaign Doubles Down: It’s Totally Fine That He Called His Enemies ‘Vermin’

Historians said Trump echoed a term used by Hitler and Mussolini. A campaign spokesperson called the former president's critics "snowflakes"

news.yahoo.com

The speech prompted reactions from historians, including John Meacham, who said Monday on MSNBC’s Morning Joe that Trump is “lifting” rhetoric from Mussolini and other historic fascists. “And from the Third Reich, and using the 1930s as an example of anything is a fraught enterprise,” Meacham added. “Because to call your opponent vermin, to dehumanize them, is to not only open the door, but to walk through the door toward the most ghastly kinds of crimes.”

How big of a poon do you have to be to think this way?

Same people who came up with the brilliant notion that using target icons on election maps was a call to violence.