Israel vs Palestinians

[85SugarVol]

Home movie type of thing I suppose.

That they then run to post to the Internet lol?

You’re really going to stand by your argument that shoving a child into a soldier with a hot weapon in no way endangers the child? No way whatsoever?

 

[Vol8188]

Both of the posts you quoted address that directly, which is not “ignoring”. “What about this one thing that a fearmongering site told me happened one time” is a waste of time

I'm not seeing it. Is chanting "gas the jews" just "pro Palestine"? What about "from the river to the see"

 

[NashVol11]

I'm not seeing it.

Then read better

 

[Vol8188]

Then read better

I apologize for assuming you were capable of honest engagement. Troll on.

 

[NashVol11]

I apologize for assuming you were capable of honest engagement. Troll on.

I engaged directly and you are (hopefully pretending to be) still confused. Saying that pro-Palestinian protests at large quickly devolve into people yelling "gas the Jews" is insane, and "what about the worst thing I could find on the Internet?????" conversations mostly are stupid

 

[jp1]

Even if true, that doesn’t mean people saying “Free Palestine” are terrorists who want death for all Jews and/or death to America

Again, I see the point I think you are trying to make. However, why did you say "even if true"? It is true. A majority are pro-Hamas. A known terrorist group.

 

[BreatheUT]

The leadership of the United States is weak. The entire world knows it. The enemy has wanted to cause chaos and mayhem for years but you have to wait until the time is right.

So not only is the Biden Administration filled with weak, facist morons but the party is filled with brainwashed useful idiots. All democrats don't fit this description, but unfortunately a huge portion of the party has been taken over by leftists.

I heard a radio guy say this morning and I agree, the Biden Administration has not been in office a full term but it feels like it's been 15 years. This administration under this term still has 27% of their time left.

I feel for this country and the world if they are not defeated next year. These wars will expand or another country will also pursue their ambitions.

 

[Vol8188]

I engaged directly and you are (hopefully pretending to be) still confused. Saying that pro-Palestinian protests at large quickly devolve into people yelling "gas the Jews" is insane, and "what about the worst thing I could find on the Internet?????" conversations mostly are stupid

I don't believe most or all of those devolve into "gas the jews". Some of them do. Not all. "From the River to the Sea" on the other hand, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a rally that didn't chant that.

You're making them stupid, and intentionally defeating your own strawman. I only threw out the worst example on the internet to give us a simple starting point that should provide easy common ground. Would've been easy for you to condemn that and then we could debate the question of "Is chanting 'From the River to the Sea' just pro-Palestinian or something closer to calling for genocide"?

We never get to that part because you just jump to pretending everyone is stupid and attack your self created strawmen.

 

[Vol8188]

Home movie type of thing I suppose.

Are those the types of home movies your parents made? "Lets push young Eastern into the that cop and see if they kill him!"

 

[85SugarVol]

It ain't a concentration camp, but its occupants are mostly trapped. Those with the cash to travel have 12 options in the world in which to travel to. Might be even more limited now.

No, it’s not a concentration camp. And it’s not an open air prison either.

But it is an awful place.

 

[NashVol11]

“Pro-Palestinian protests” became “pro-Hamas, calling for terrorist attacks on the U.S. and screaming Death to America” in zero seconds in this thread

I will say it more deliberately I guess

Do you agree the "pro-Palestinian" protests seem to quickly become that in real life too?

No, especially if the below is your basis for saying that

When you're chanting "gas the Jews"

Which they are not, other than probably some anecdote that It "happened one time somewhere"

or "from the river to the sea"

Which is not even remotely, a little bit, similar to the bolded above

, it's hard to see those things as simply "pro-Palestinian".

OK. Hope that helps

 

[Sea Ray]

“In all wars there are some civilian victims. We are not responsible for them,” he said in an interview with Saudi Arabia-based television channel Al Arabiya on Friday. - Khaled Meshaal, director of Hamas’s diaspora operations and a chief spokesman for the group (Full article)

Ok, swell. The Ham-*ss talking head is acknowledging that there are bound to be civilian casualties, and they're not responsible for them. By that logic, the Israeli military should not be held responsible for civilian collateral damage either, right?

Did he speak about targeting civilians? Like elementary schools?

 

[jp1]

I will say it more deliberately I guess

No, especially if the below is your basis for saying that

Which they are not, other than probably some anecdote that It "happened one time somewhere"

Which is not even remotely, a little bit, similar to the bolded above

OK. Hope that helps

You have to admit, that the saying can only have 1 meaning though, right?

 

[85SugarVol]

Polls Show Majority of Gazans Were Against Breaking Ceasefire; Hamas and Hezbollah Unpopular Among Key Arab Publics

Recent Washington Institute polls have tracked Gazans’ views on Hamas and the ceasefire with Israel, along with a wider regional decline in popularity for Hamas and Hezbollah.

www.washingtoninstitute.org

It is wild to me what the people of Gaza continue to support.

3 in 5 Gazans continue to support Hamas -

Overall, 57% of Gazans express at least a somewhat positive opinion of Hamas—along with similar percentages of Palestinians in the West Bank (52%) and East Jerusalem (64%)—though Gazans who express this opinion of Hamas are fewer than the number of Gazans who have a positive view of Fatah (64%).

75% of Gazans back Palestinian Terror groups -

But it is organizations like Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) and Lion’s Den that receive the most widespread popular support in Gaza. About three quarters of Gazans express support for both groups, including 40% who see the Lion’s Den in a “very positive” light

 

[85SugarVol]

NYC is one of the most Jewish places in the country, if you believe the thousands of protestors here are all yelling “gas the Jews” en masse you are too gullible

Speaking of - What did you think of Chuck Schumer’s recent comments?

 

[85SugarVol]

You're the only person dumb enough to take Hamas at their word here.

Huff is the only one?

 

[Vol8188]

I will say it more deliberately I guess

No, especially if the below is your basis for saying that

Which they are not, other than probably some anecdote that It "happened one time somewhere"

Which is not even remotely, a little bit, similar to the bolded above

OK. Hope that helps

More strawmen without ever answering the main question. Is chanting to the river to the sea, simply pro-Palestinian or is it is something closer to a call for genocide?

 

[Majors]

It is wild to me what the people of Gaza continue to support.

3 in 5 Gazans continue to support Hamas -



75% of Gazans back Palestinian Terror groups -

The final scene in “The Kingdom” explains and sheds clarity on this from an outside perspective.

 

[tbh]

Did he speak about targeting civilians? Like elementary schools?

Not that I am aware of, however the WSJ article referenced an interview between Meshaal and a Saudi news outlet. He may have (although I wouldn't put money on it). Another question that will likely never be directly addressed is how he (or anyone, for that matter) quantifies 'some' in that context. Talking head is gonna talk.

 

[Vol8188]

You have to admit, that the saying can only have 1 meaning though, right?

He does this intentionally to prevent from engaging in the real question. Instead he will continue to beat his strawmen about how we all believe every person at every left wing Palestinian rally ever wants to gas Jews.

 

[85SugarVol]

More strawmen without ever answering the main question. Is chanting to the river to the sea, simply pro-Palestinian or is it is something closer to a call for genocide?

It’s certainly a call for ethnic cleansing of the land - between the river and the sea.

 

[Vol8188]

It’s certainly a call for ethnic cleansing of the land - between the river and the sea.

He does this strawman routine every time.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Huff is the only one?

Well, they did pinky swear

 

[Orangeslice13]

We have goobers trying to draw the difference between Hamas and Palestinians. While outright ignoring that Hamas draws no different between Israel and the people living there.
Those same people are all concerned for the poor innocent Palestinians who might get in the way but are dead silent on the daily launching of rockets by Hamas at Israeli women and children….or at least without regard to where those rockets landed…..including on their own people. Those hypocrites in here jumped on the big lie that it was an Israeli attack and even now refuse to discuss it.

Free speech. Let them talk. It’s important to know who I should not turn my back on.

 

[NashVol11]

More strawmen without ever answering the main question. Is chanting to the river to the sea, simply pro-Palestinian or is it is something closer to a call for genocide?

"The main question" is whether people should be kicked out of the country for participating in a pro-Palestinian protest. Unless you are saying that "from the river to the sea" should get someone kicked out of the country, I think you are confused about what the "strawman" is