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mr.checkerboards said:
Vegas think we win and cover. With that much money coming in on AM if Vegas thought AM was going to win or cover the number would be dropping.
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Only thing to note is it’s still early in the week, so the total number of bets/amount of money might not be significant enough to warrant a line move. So it’ll be interesting to track that as the week progresses.
 
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TheRain said:


Hello, my name is Urrg. I like long walks with a spear... Cave paintings...
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Didn’t it start at -8.5 or something like that? If so, then it fits the line dropping so much. That is a lot of money coming in on one side. I’ll be interested what happens to the line Friday/Saturday, and how the sharp money sees this game.
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I’m not sure where the first person that posted -8.5 got that. The books I follow, the odds aren’t released until Sunday the week of the game. And those first odds on Sunday were -3.5
 
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peaygolf said:
October 10, 1920
Cleveland's Bill Wambsganss recorded the first, and only, unassisted Triple-Play in World series history.
Cleveland would go on to defeat Brooklyn 8-1 in route to the title.

With two on and nobody out, Brooklyn's Clarence Mitchell came to bat in the 5th inning:

"Mitchell was a decent hitter and Robinson had used him occasionally to pinch-hit. Wambsganss deliberately played back on the outfield grass, as Mitch often hit to right and Wamby wanted to keep the ball from getting through and perhaps scoring a run. When the count reached 1-1, the hit-and-run play was put on, and it had everything to do with the execution of the play that followed. Mitchell hit the ball hard, and it was heading toward center field several feet to the right of second base. Wambsganss had broken toward the bag, or he wouldn’t have been able to make the play. Make it he barely did, catching the ball in mid-flight with his outstretched glove. Kilduff was almost to third base and Miller rapidly approaching second. Momentum carried Wamby in the direction he was going and two or three strides took him to second base. The minute his foot hit the bag, Kilduff was out. And Miller’s own momentum brought him right to Wamby. He pulled up short and didn’t have time to turn back and try to retreat. He was just five feet away. “He stopped running and stood there, so I just tagged him. That was all there was to it,” Wambsganss explained. “Just before I tagged him, he said, ‘Where’d you get that ball?’ I said, ‘Well, I’ve got it and you’re out number three.’” It was all over in a flash. Three outs. There was dead silence in the park as everyone took in what they’d witnessed, and then an explosion of celebration."

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mrMet said:
I’m not sure where the first person that posted -8.5 got that. The books I follow, the odds aren’t released until Sunday the week of the game. And those first odds on Sunday were -3.5
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I believe this game was one of the early lines released over the summer.
 
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Vol423 said:
That Milton pass at the Manning Passing Academy hasn’t done a damn thing for us either. It’s funny the way that works.
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If some of these passes that he threw weren't dropped....you'd be singing a different tune...but you're going to get your Milton shot in no matter what. Also...don't compare Leary and Milton this year....Leary is hot garbage.
 
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peaygolf said:
October 10, 1920
Cleveland's Bill Wambsganss recorded the first, and only, unassisted Triple-Play in World series history.
Cleveland would go on to defeat Brooklyn 8-1 in route to the title.

With two on and nobody out, Brooklyn's Clarence Mitchell came to bat in the 5th inning:

"Mitchell was a decent hitter and Robinson had used him occasionally to pinch-hit. Wambsganss deliberately played back on the outfield grass, as Mitch often hit to right and Wamby wanted to keep the ball from getting through and perhaps scoring a run. When the count reached 1-1, the hit-and-run play was put on, and it had everything to do with the execution of the play that followed. Mitchell hit the ball hard, and it was heading toward center field several feet to the right of second base. Wambsganss had broken toward the bag, or he wouldn’t have been able to make the play. Make it he barely did, catching the ball in mid-flight with his outstretched glove. Kilduff was almost to third base and Miller rapidly approaching second. Momentum carried Wamby in the direction he was going and two or three strides took him to second base. The minute his foot hit the bag, Kilduff was out. And Miller’s own momentum brought him right to Wamby. He pulled up short and didn’t have time to turn back and try to retreat. He was just five feet away. “He stopped running and stood there, so I just tagged him. That was all there was to it,” Wambsganss explained. “Just before I tagged him, he said, ‘Where’d you get that ball?’ I said, ‘Well, I’ve got it and you’re out number three.’” It was all over in a flash. Three outs. There was dead silence in the park as everyone took in what they’d witnessed, and then an explosion of celebration."

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Pulled off one just like that in a softball game at what is now Lakeshore Park in mid late 60’s.

As unusual as unassisted triple plays are I bet I saw in person the ONLY MLB triple play in history involving 7 defenders by the Braves in 69’ vs the Cubs. Went 3,5,2,6,1,4, and 7 with Rico Carty streaking in from left to take a throw and tag out a retreating runner at 2nd base. A stunned silence followed as everyone figured it out. Odd as the play ended with every infielder on the third base line following a hard one hopper to Cepada (sp) at first with runners on 2nd and 3rd following a game starting walk, walk, balk sequence. Threw behind 3rd base runner after tagging base to get Santo and the rundowns provided the history.

Braves and Cubs both in it late that season but lost out to Miracle Mets that year.

Edited to correct the account, it was Billy Williams not Santo that hit the ball to first.

Also age has it’s costs, it actually went 3,6,2,5,1,4,7. But the internet can be your friend.
 
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