The Atlanta Braves

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raw dog said:
Young Scott use to think that dude was the cat’s ass, then, a few years ago, I decide to look up his stats. Let’s just say we ALL take Ozzie for granted.
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At least the advanced numbers have him as a gold glove caliber defensive 2B or it would be really ugly
 
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zjcvols said:
It’s hilarious looking at some of those Braves playoff runs where Lemke is the worst hitter in the lineup by far with a 65 OPS+ and he’s batting second. And no one criticized it because he could down a bunt or move a runner over.
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In those days, it was OK if the entire middle of the field (C, SS, 2B, CF) were black holes offensively.

Today, the only position where a GM is OK with that is what, maybe catcher? And they have to be super good defensively/handling pitchers for that to happen, not just pretty good.
 
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05_never_again said:
In those days, it was OK if the entire middle of the field (C, SS, 2B, CF) were black holes offensively.

Today, the only position where a GM is OK with that is what, maybe catcher? And they have to be super good defensively/handling pitchers for that to happen, not just pretty good.
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Maybe one of SS or CF. But you can’t have both. It’s kinda crazy how much it has changed. Even four years remember when Snit got annoyed about having Ronnie lead off and had Ender/Ozzie do it for two months?
 
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What’s funny is that the other three major sports are going more and more to specialists. Outside of your major stars, do one thing really well. Baseball, complete opposite. You need complete players. You need an Ozzie, a Brandon Marsh, a Hae-Song Kim. Well rounded players.
 
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zjcvols said:
What’s funny is that the other three major sports are going more and more to specialists. Outside of your major stars, do one thing really well. Baseball, complete opposite. You need complete players. You need an Ozzie, a Brandon Marsh, a Hae-Song Kim. Well rounded players.
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Could be because for so many years baseball went the over-specialization route. LOOGYs, your best reliever has to pitch the 9th to get the save, keep a big fat left-handed hitter on the bench to PH, etc. Some rules changes have gotten rid of specialists to an extent too.
 
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In the ‘92 NLCS, we had Rafael Belliard at SS and Lemke at 2B. Pittsburgh had Chico Lind at 2B and Jay Bell (I think) at SS. Bell was the only average/above average guy of that foursome.
 
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Acuna
Nootbar/Ozzie
Riley
Olson
Murphy
Ozzie/Nootbar
Rosario/TDA
Arcia
Harris

Fried
Strider
Morton
Matz
Soroka (Wright when healthy)
 
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Cardinals save $15M, get an all-star pitcher with 5 controllable years, get a top 100 prospect that is a pitcher and a flyer on Anderson who will have four years of team control left after TJS. They also clear their OF logjam.

Braves get an everyday LF that is a good LH bat that plays solid defense (under team control through 2027). They move off Ozuna’s deal and get an average starter from the left side for two more years to replace Chuck as the vet when he retires. They can get Murphy/TDA more AB’s moving Ozuna.
 
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Friday- Chirinos
Saturday- Elder
Sunday- TBA

Chuck getting an extra day. Shuster would be in line to start Sunday but had 6 walks yesterday. They could also go Justus Sheffield but he’s not on the 4 0 man. Probably a bullpen game.
 
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