Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

[Jackcrevol]

You knew it was coming.

twss.

 

[SugarCC]

Hobby Horse Generation on Instagram: "Championships 2023 #hobbyhorse #hobbyhorsing"

 

[Orange.]

There's one I found that is absolutely hysterical, but I don't want @Freak to ban me.

Link, please.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, The good 'ole days.

 

[BigSteve09]

Conversations from the off-season worth revisiting as we approach August...

Josh Pate of The Late Kick (247):

As a program, Tennessee was good, then they fell, and they were in the wilderness for a long long time. Then there were some brief, faint radio transmissions from out there, and you thought oh is Tennessee back? No, Tennessee's not back, never mind. Butch Jones? Trash can? Nope. It was failure after failure after failure. Derek Dooley is wearing what color pants?

Then all of a sudden, they beat Alabama last year. Then all of a sudden the dam broke. Here comes the wave, and the mood around Tennessee is "ride the wave as long as we possibly can."

And they have earned it. That fanbase deserves it. It took a long time to get back.

There will be plenty of other programs that tell you they were out in the wilderness and it just makes you appreciate the success more. Current Tennessee students, they don't know their college program's place in college football history. They've been institutionalized, they've been in this little college football self-made prison where you've been dreaming of the Gator Bowl, and fantasizing about what it would be like to win 10 games. That is not Tennessee. That has been Tennessee in your lifetime.

Tennessee is supposed to compete for National Championships. That's where they're supposed to be. That's the conversation they're supposed to be in. Now, the fans got institutionalized because you've watched a lot of very very subpar Tennessee teams get trotted out there on Saturdays in the fall. So you got convinced, and a lot of people did their best to convince you, that Tennessee couldn't be great anymore.

Remember that conversation? "The game has just changed, Tennessee just can't recruit well enough."

I remember when we had Josh Heupel on the show last year, and he didn't even let me get the sentence out of my mouth. I started to say the whole Tennessee can't recruit and he said "do you see my face, that's how disgusted I am by that statement."

He was right. A lot of that was just fodder. The fact is, the results had nothing to do with the system being stacked against them, it had nothing to do with the sport leaving them behind, they just made terrible hires. They just made poor decisions and they suffered the consequences.

Now they made a good hire and they are benefitting from the positive consequences of that. And that's "the wave." You are experiencing "The Red Bull" effect at Tennessee - it's the sugar high. And there's a finite amount in that can, that sugar and energy before you've got to put together something that is sustainable. That's what we can't know yet. We know Tennessee looked really good last year, what we can't know is how sustainable it is.

Are we gonna look back in 2026 and say man that one blip year really made us feel like they were on the way back but they fell off. Or are we gonna say man look at Tennessee, they're in it again every year, and what started in 2021 and 2022 has become a perennial powerhouse program.

I don't know. We can all guess one way or the other. What I do know is defense has to be better. They were 44th in points per game. I think what has looked better is that they are recruiting better defensive personnel. They had the number 9 class in the country in recruiting. They landed a 5 star QB. Their first top 10 class since 2015. They had the most wins last year since 2001. They led the FBS in points per game and yards per game offensively.

There is no more guessing what Tennessee is. They are a contender. They are the 4th highest odds from the SEC to win the national title. I think it will surprise some people to see LSU listed ahead of them but it shouldn't. That has everything to do with the QB position.

Speaking of the QB position, here's where my head would be if I were a Tennessee fan. Look at the draft this year. What they said about Hooker. If they're right, that means Josh Heupel just owned the college football world with a mid-round guy. What happens when he gets a top-tier guy, then?

They had Jalin Hyatt, who wasn't even supposed to be the main guy at WR. He just destroyed Alabama. The only thing that stopped him was the clock hitting zero because he would have kept scoring as long as they played.

My point is, there will be people looking at Hooker and Hyatt leaving and say "uh oh." My question would be, were you touting them last year? Were you touting Hyatt? Are you touting Squirrel White now? You will be talking about him a lot come fall. This offense is going to make Star offensive players every year. Whether it's Milton, who looked like a totally different guy in their bowl game. Whether it's Nico. Offense is not going to be the reason they lose games. If I'm a Tennessee fan I know that and can at least take comfort in that.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Want to borrow some of my international travel safety gear. Designed for Memphians for Memphians. Blades completely made from carbon fiber. Hidden in a hairbrush, shive in a toothbrush handle. Hinged carbon fiber shoe insoles that fold into a blade (edges are wicked sharp when you take the cover off and hinge becomes a serrated tearing edge. Belt with a carbon fiber blade in the buckle. Wicked whip knife. The pistol is harder to get through security unless you totally disassemble it and it also becomes common toiletries. Powered by CO2 cartridges that are hidden inside your hairdryer handle.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I would guess it is like everything else…. Some of the changes are positive and some of the changes are negative.

Bingo

 

[peaygolf]

Link, please.

Sexist and offensive vintage ads that would never fly today, 1940-1980 - Rare Historical Photos

 

[Orange.]

Hobby Horse Generation on Instagram: "Championships 2023 #hobbyhorse #hobbyhorsing"

Still undefeated:

 

[volbeast33]

Your generation really has it figured out and is making the world so great...for everybody...it's really great how you love your country so much, have such great morals, and are soooo awesomely tolerant...of everybody.

Thank you so much for fixing our country...you're all so awesome and better than us.

Drag him Ulysses!

 

[Orange_Crush]

here is the response from the Northwestern….. the one kid was no longer a player in the program…. They didn’t give any detail at all regarding the other player…. The article tried to loosely tie in Coach Fitzgerald by how he clapped during a game…. The school did hire a 3rd party to investigate which appears they thought something was there but the allegations were exaggerated…. At least that is my opinion on it although more details may come out later to change my mind.

It didn't happen. Also, the coach had no knowledge of it happening, when it happened.

 

[lfvol]

It didn't happen. Also, the coach had no knowledge of it happening, when it happened.

Well, the university is “revisiting” their punishment so….

 

[Orange.]

Hobby Horse Generation on Instagram: "Championships 2023 #hobbyhorse #hobbyhorsing"

I don't want to go off on a weird tangent, but this reminds me of some remarks of Kojeve's about the end of history.

 

[SSVol]

Maybe that’s it. I take magnesium supplements daily. I have been for at least 10 years.

I think you would find Dr. Levy's magnesium book interesting.

He wrote a book on calcium several years ago, basically labeling it as the source of dang near everything that hurts us (causes intracellular oxidative stress when cellular concentrations are too high). The problem was that there didn't seem to be a good antidote to it, thus we were destined to Death by Calcium (his calcium book). His publisher asked him to write one on magnesium, and at first he refused believing that nothing useful would come from it and that he had nothing to add, but as he started researching it, he came to realize that magnesium was the cure to all the calcium problems he identified in his previous book.

 

[SugarCC]

Still undefeated:
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<--- That's me, seconding the motion.

 

[SugarCC]

I don't want to go off on a weird tangent, but this reminds me of some remarks of Kojeve's about the end of history.

Yet, this pales in comparison to so many other things bringing that about.

 

[Ericvol2096]

Conversations from the off-season worth revisiting as we approach August...

Josh Pate of The Late Kick (247):

As a program, Tennessee was good, then they fell, and they were in the wilderness for a long long time. Then there were some brief, faint radio transmissions from out there, and you thought oh is Tennessee back? No, Tennessee's not back, never mind. Butch Jones? Trash can? Nope. It was failure after failure after failure. Derek Dooley is wearing what color pants?

Then all of a sudden, they beat Alabama last year. Then all of a sudden the dam broke. Here comes the wave, and the mood around Tennessee is "ride the wave as long as we possibly can."

And they have earned it. That fanbase deserves it. It took a long time to get back.

There will be plenty of other programs that tell you they were out in the wilderness and it just makes you appreciate the success more. Current Tennessee students, they don't know their college program's place in college football history. They've been institutionalized, they've been in this little college football self-made prison where you've been dreaming of the Gator Bowl, and fantasizing about what it would be like to win 10 games. That is not Tennessee. That has been Tennessee in your lifetime.

Tennessee is supposed to compete for National Championships. That's where they're supposed to be. That's the conversation they're supposed to be in. Now, the fans got institutionalized because you've watched a lot of very very subpar Tennessee teams get trotted out there on Saturdays in the fall. So you got convinced, and a lot of people did their best to convince you, that Tennessee couldn't be great anymore.

Remember that conversation? "The game has just changed, Tennessee just can't recruit well enough."

I remember when we had Josh Heupel on the show last year, and he didn't even let me get the sentence out of my mouth. I started to say the whole Tennessee can't recruit and he said "do you see my face, that's how disgusted I am by that statement."

He was right. A lot of that was just fodder. The fact is, the results had nothing to do with the system being stacked against them, it had nothing to do with the sport leaving them behind, they just made terrible hires. They just made poor decisions and they suffered the consequences.

Now they made a good hire and they are benefitting from the positive consequences of that. And that's "the wave." You are experiencing "The Red Bull" effect at Tennessee - it's the sugar high. And there's a finite amount in that can, that sugar and energy before you've got to put together something that is sustainable. That's what we can't know yet. We know Tennessee looked really good last year, what we can't know is how sustainable it is.

Are we gonna look back in 2026 and say man that one blip year really made us feel like they were on the way back but they fell off. Or are we gonna say man look at Tennessee, they're in it again every year, and what started in 2021 and 2022 has become a perennial powerhouse program.

I don't know. We can all guess one way or the other. What I do know is defense has to be better. They were 44th in points per game. I think what has looked better is that they are recruiting better defensive personnel. They had the number 9 class in the country in recruiting. They landed a 5 star QB. Their first top 10 class since 2015. They had the most wins last year since 2001. They led the FBS in points per game and yards per game offensively.

There is no more guessing what Tennessee is. They are a contender. They are the 4th highest odds from the SEC to win the national title. I think it will surprise some people to see LSU listed ahead of them but it shouldn't. That has everything to do with the QB position.

Speaking of the QB position, here's where my head would be if I were a Tennessee fan. Look at the draft this year. What they said about Hooker. If they're right, that means Josh Heupel just owned the college football world with a mid-round guy. What happens when he gets a top-tier guy, then?

They had Jalin Hyatt, who wasn't even supposed to be the main guy at WR. He just destroyed Alabama. The only thing that stopped him was the clock hitting zero because he would have kept scoring as long as they played.

My point is, there will be people looking at Hooker and Hyatt leaving and say "uh oh." My question would be, were you touting them last year? Were you touting Hyatt? Are you touting Squirrel White now? You will be talking about him a lot come fall. This offense is going to make Star offensive players every year. Whether it's Milton, who looked like a totally different guy in their bowl game. Whether it's Nico. Offense is not going to be the reason they lose games. If I'm a Tennessee fan I know that and can at least take comfort in that.

Video link?

 

[Orange.]

Yet, this pales in comparison to so many other things bringing that about.

Yeah, I meant as a result not a cause. But yeah, there are weirder manifestations. I appreciate you posting it.

 

[Orange.]

....I remember when we had Josh Heupel on the show last year, and he didn't even let me get the sentence out of my mouth. I started to say the whole Tennessee can't recruit and he said "do you see my face, that's how disgusted I am by that statement." ....

 

[volbeast33]

Well, the university is “revisiting” their punishment so….

Starting to feel that pressure

 

[Weezer]

First doc Ive ever encountered that told me to eat bacon.

Ill stick to the uncured turkey bacon It is delish.

if you ate real bacon, the resulting happiness would cause you to be nice to everyone, and that would just be weird.

 

[bignewt]

I attribute my zero cardiac calcium score on consistent pork intake. I also have a very high family cardiac risk level. I’m attributing the difference between myself and my family being dependent on tobacco use (I don’t). And I dodged the Diabetes gene (so far).

Just kidding with you about the pork. That sucks. I hope you keep going at least into your 90s and beyond.

Have you looked into HIIT training. It’s at least equal To old school cardio. I personally think it’s better.

I take Omega 3 fish oil capsules daily and have since my 40s. I’m positive that it helps with my cardiovascular system even though I take it for the natural anti- inflammatory effects.

I take 3 capsules daily. 1-2 is strictly for cardiac. 3 for arthritis pain. I used to be very weather affective. I knew when the barometric pressure was going to drop before it actually did. I now blissfully have no clue what the weather is doing.

My personal recommendation is
Nature Bounty (dark green bottle)
Odor Less (make sure the bottle says that)
Omega 3 fish oil.

Take 3 per day and altogether is fine. No need to spread it out.
Give it a month to work. It only took a week for me.
The reason I pay a little bit more for the Odor Less is that I have never tasted the fish oil. The fish oil is from sardines and anchovies and is disgusting to taste.

It’s usually buy one get one free at Kroger’s.
Costco carries it as well for 1/2 the price of Kroger’s, so equivalent.

I tried krill oil, but it didn’t seem to work for me. I tried multiple other brands and always tasted the fish oil.

Thanks doc. I have united healthcare if you want to bill them.

 

[bignewt]

if you ate real bacon, the resulting happiness would cause you to be nice to everyone, and that would just be weird.

I ate pork till about 6 years ago. Trust me I was not any nicer.

 

[Weezer]

Titans are going to be terrible for the rest of this decade if they don't accept the rebuild. How is D Hop a priority? Let alone a top 5 need for this franchise?

An old WR that has only played 19 games the last two seasons is gonna come suit up for a chronically injured team. I'm sure it will go swell.

They've already screwed up the rebuild by drafting Levis. There's no coming back from that. Might as well go down as spectacularly as possible.

 

[Weezer]

My two oldest daughters came up to me today and said they can’t wait for football season. First time they’ve said that to me.

Proud dad moment!

Did they immediately ask for money right after?