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So, I was bored last night, I was thinking and I'm curious of your alls thoughts on this.
With their ages and time in the league does anybody currently in the league get close to the HR record?
Miggy is the current closest but we all know he's done, Cruz is next but he will be don't soon. Stanton is in 3rd but he can't stay healthy.
I dont think Judge will. He's already 31 but didn't get in the league until he was a bit older.
Trout I think has the best chance. I really want someone to take the record from Bonds.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
So, I was bored last night, I was thinking and I'm curious of your alls thoughts on this.
With their ages and time in the league does anybody currently in the league get close to the HR record?
Miggy is the current closest but we all know he's done, Cruz is next but he will be don't soon. Stanton is in 3rd but he can't stay healthy.
I dont think Judge will. He's already 31 but didn't get in the league until he was a bit older.
Trout I think has the best chance. I really want someone to take the record from Bonds.
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Nobody right now. Maybe a J-Rod or De La Cruz would be my guess right now, but nobody that’s been established for a minute.

I don’t think anyone is touching Bonds. Not only do you have to be staggeringly durable, you have to be a superstar for 15-20 years. Look at how Pujols and Miggy really declined without PED’s. It’s really hard to stay that good for that long. And pitchers are too good now. With all the relief specialists, you don’t get tired starters in the 7th, you’re not seeing less than 100 pitchers a year, you’re seeing like 200 now.
 
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Kinda new to this side of the Forum. I seen on Friday that the Braves are the betting favorite to land Shohei Ohtani when the bidding war starts. What would the braves have to give up to be able to afford a 500+ million dollar super star contract?
 
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You have to average 38-39 HR’s for 20 years to get to Bonds. Only 5 guys hit 38 home runs last year. It’s incredibly difficult and you need an obscene amount of luck.
 
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aRmo said:
Kinda new to this side of the Forum. I seen on Friday that the Braves are the betting favorite to land Shohei Ohtani when the bidding war starts. What would the braves have to give up to be able to afford a 500+ million dollar super star contract?
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I can just about guarantee we aren’t shelling out that kind of $$$
 
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aRmo said:
Kinda new to this side of the Forum. I seen on Friday that the Braves are the betting favorite to land Shohei Ohtani when the bidding war starts. What would the braves have to give up to be able to afford a 500+ million dollar super star contract?
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mr.checkerboards said:
So, I was bored last night, I was thinking and I'm curious of your alls thoughts on this.
With their ages and time in the league does anybody currently in the league get close to the HR record?
Miggy is the current closest but we all know he's done, Cruz is next but he will be don't soon. Stanton is in 3rd but he can't stay healthy.
I dont think Judge will. He's already 31 but didn't get in the league until he was a bit older.
Trout I think has the best chance. I really want someone to take the record from Bonds.
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The next guy who even sniffs that number is a really young player currently in the league, or someone who hasn't even entered the league yet.

The #1 and #2 active leaders (Miggy and Nelson Cruz) are guys right at the ends of their careers. Not to mention the fact that Miggy is 254 HRs behind Bonds (that's unbelievable just typing that). I question if the #3 guy (Giancarlo) can stay healthy enough to get to 500, much less 600 or 650. Trout is #4, and as much as I hate to say it I see injuries really impacting him between now and his retirement. He'd have to nearly double his current HR total to get close. #5 and #6 (Votto and Longoria) are two guys who are almost done. Next you run into a mix of guys with some years left, but "only" have 300-325 HRs. They're too far away.

Bonds basically had a career with 2 separate peaks: one from 1990-94 and then another from 2000-04. And during the period between his MVPs he was still an elite player. Without roids, I don't see how someone could pull that off today.
 
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zjcvols said:
Nobody right now. Maybe a J-Rod or De La Cruz would be my guess right now, but nobody that’s been established for a minute.

I don’t think anyone is touching Bonds. Not only do you have to be staggeringly durable, you have to be a superstar for 15-20 years. Look at how Pujols and Miggy really declined without PED’s. It’s really hard to stay that good for that long. And pitchers are too good now. With all the relief specialists, you don’t get tired starters in the 7th, you’re not seeing less than 100 pitchers a year, you’re seeing like 200 now.
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That's kind of where I was leaning. Back then 95 was at a premium now even bums throw 100.
I did the math, over the course of a 22 year career you would have to average 34.3 Homer's a season. Factoring in fall off at the end of a career someone would probably need a couple 60 homerun seasons to get there.
I would just like to see a chase in my life time.
 
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05_never_again said:
The next guy who even sniffs that number is a really young player currently in the league, or someone who hasn't even entered the league yet.

The #1 and #2 active leaders (Miggy and Nelson Cruz) are guys right at the ends of their careers. Not to mention the fact that Miggy is 254 HRs behind Bonds (that's unbelievable just typing that). I question if the #3 guy (Giancarlo) can stay healthy enough to get to 500, much less 600 or 650. Trout is #4, and as much as I hate to say it I see injuries really impacting him between now and his retirement. He'd have to nearly double his current HR total to get close. #5 and #6 (Votto and Longoria) are two guys who are almost done. Next you run into a mix of guys with some years left, but "only" have 300-325 HRs. They're too far away.

Bonds basically had a career with 2 separate peaks: one from 1990-94 and then another from 2000-04. And during the period between his MVPs he was still an elite player. Without roids, I don't see how someone could pull that off today.
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I think that's the biggest advantage from the roads. Not the strength which was a huge help, but the increase in recovery.

It's going to have to be a guy similar to Olson if anyone does it. Pretty much everything he hits is in the air.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
I think that's the biggest advantage from the roads. Not the strength which was a huge help, but the increase in recovery.

It's going to have to be a guy similar to Olson if anyone does it. Pretty much everything he hits is in the air.
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Guys who juiced have talked about it. They woke up every morning feeling fresh, not like they'd played 15 days in a row. Minimal aches and pains, fatigue, etc.
 
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