More Climate BS...

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Makes you wonder if any of our climate change adherents have ever considered a relationship between rising oceans (if they really are rising) and the pumping of groundwater. Water isn't destroyed; we're just moving it around ... what evaporates in one place condenses somewhere else. I've also never seen where they discuss the local effects of large wind and solar facilities - the possible disruption of ground level wind patterns and change in surface temperature due to reflected and non ground absorbed solar radiation. You'd think that despite their belief that everything else that man does has a negative effect, that nothing the climate change crowd advocates push ever affects anything in a negative manner. Obviously and unlike other animals, their their bodily discharges are odorless.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Harsh words for CNN about their fake agenda on "climate change" crap.

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This is an old clip, is it not--and full of disinformation from a man who hadn't worked at the Weather Channel for 30 years when he gave this interview.

The "AP," if you're not familiar with the acronym (one can never be sure on this site), is the Associated Press--a longtime and very reputable and non-partisan press service in America.

Old video of Weather Channel co-founder fuels climate misinformation

CLAIM: Climate change is not happening, nor are humans causing significant global warming. There is also no scientific consensus that climate change is occurring.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The scientific consensus is that climate change is real and that greenhouse gas emissions caused by human activity are driving climate change, as The Associated Press has previously reported. The false claims stem from a years-old CNN interview with John Coleman, the now deceased co-founder of The Weather Channel. At the time, he had not worked at the network in three decades, and The Weather Channel rejected his claims in the same CNN segment.

THE FACTS: A video of Coleman making a variety of false claims about climate change during a 2014 interview on CNN’s “Reliable Sources” resurfaced online over the past week, with social media users sharing it as if it were new.
During the interview, Coleman claimed that there is “no consensus” in science that humans are causing climate change. He went on to call the notion “baloney.” “Climate change is not happening, there is no significant man-made global warming now, there hasn’t been any in the past and there is no reason to expect any in the future,” Coleman said.

The old video clip has spread widely on social media platforms including Twitter and Instagram in recent days. A tweet featuring the footage has been shared over 28,000 times since it was posted on Wednesday.

Coleman’s claims are false. As the AP has previously reported, overwhelming scientific evidence shows global warming and climate change are real and caused by human activity, including human-caused carbon dioxide emissions.

The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, an entity consisting of more than 200 scientists, said in a report released in February that human-induced climate change is already causing deadly extreme weather, such as drought, fires, and floods, and that the situation will get worse if global warming isn’t curbed.

“The cumulative scientific evidence is unequivocal: Climate change is a threat to human well-being and planetary health,” the report said.
Coleman, who died in 2018 at age 83, co-founded The Weather Channel in 1981 and served as its CEO for roughly a year, the AP reported. Despite his background as a meteorologist, Coleman caused controversy in the later years of his career for doubting humanity’s role in causing global warming, which he called a “hoax” and a “scam.”

When Coleman appeared on CNN’s “Reliable Sources” in 2014, The Weather Channel’s parent company distanced itself from his comments. David Kenny, then CEO of the Weather Company, appeared on the same segment to respond, noting that Coleman hadn’t been involved at The Weather Channel for decades.

“The science is pretty clear about climate change,” Kenny said. “I think some people were confused to hear a statement from somebody who was noted as a co-founder of The Weather Channel, which is true, we’re grateful that he got it started 32 years ago. But he hasn’t been with us in 31 years, so he’s not really speaking for The Weather Channel in any way today.”

Weather Group, the channel’s current parent company, did not immediately respond to AP’s request for comment.
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This is part of AP’s effort to address widely shared misinformation, including work with outside companies and organizations to add factual context to misleading content that is circulating online. Learn more about fact-checking at AP.
 
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ALX posting a picture of the tweet that he very clearly failed to comprehend is such a self-own, and yet there are thousands of people agreeing and showing off their lack of reading comprehension to own the libs. We are doomed lol
 
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McDad said:
We have passed the point of no return, then?
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I don't think so. Earth's pretty resilient.
I doubt we've really defined how much of the current climate warming trend is from human activity. If we were near the point of no return due to carbon emissions as an established fact, it would have been inexcusable to give 'developing' economies a pass on their emissions.
 
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Anybody with half a brain and a bit of common sense should realize that 9 billion people living on a big rock and chopping down forests, dumping vast amounts of toxins into waterways and the ground, and spewing massive volumes of carbon particulates into the atmosphere for 150 years is going to have deleterious effects on the planet. There's a reason there's been serious, serious drought and water shortages in the American West. There's a reason animal species have been steadily disappearing--that bees, frogs and 1,000 other species are under threat. The world's bird population is dwindling.

Scientists study issues and raise concerns and note problems, or potential problems---they evaulate future consequences of current activities. And then we have politicians and industry groups and assorted others who are not concerned with future consequences and who want to maintain the status quo--their profits, their cushy job in congress, their lifestyle. And these people not only resist any research or regulations that might jeopardize their status quo, they spend heavily to spew disinformation and cloud these issues for the public--a notorious industry tactic. The tobacco industry spent decades covering up the dangers of cigarette smoking; the chemical industry spends huge sums of money to camouflage the fact that its products are dangerous and cause serious health problems.

Politicians carry water for these industry groups--echo their disinformation--because the industry groups contribute to their campaigns and the pols want to be reelected. They may also be ideologically opposed to regulation--which is stupid. And then goobers listen to the politicians and echo the disinformation spewed by the politicians--no matter that neither the industry groups nor the politicians nor the goobers are scientists or have scientific expertise. So on the one side we have science and scientists--responsible for all the advances in our history--and on the other side we have the scoffers and the sophists, who want to protect the status quo. Put me down on the side of science--always. Those who try to argue against science are political, stupid and self-interested.
 
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turbovol said:
Anybody with half a brain and a bit of common sense should realize that 9 billion people living on a big rock and chopping down forests, dumping vast amounts of toxins into waterways and the ground, and spewing massive volumes of carbon particulates into the atmosphere for 150 years is going to have deleterious effects on the planet. There's a reason there's been serious, serious drought and water shortages in the American West. There's a reason animal species have been steadily disappearing--that bees, frogs and 1,000 other species are under threat. The world's bird population is dwindling.

Scientists study issues and raise concerns and note problems, or potential problems---they evaulate future consequences of current activities. And then we have politicians and industry groups and assorted others who are not concerned with future consequences and who want to maintain the status quo--their profits, their cushy job in congress, their lifestyle. And these people not only resist any research or regulations that might jeopardize their status quo, they spend heavily to spew disinformation and cloud these issues for the public--a notorious industry tactic. The tobacco industry spent decades covering up the dangers of cigarette smoking; the chemical industry spends huge sums of money to camouflage the fact that its products are dangerous and cause serious health problems.

Politicians carry water for these industry groups--echo their disinformation--because the industry groups contribute to their campaigns and the pols want to be reelected. They may also be ideologically opposed to regulation--which is stupid. And then goobers listen to the politicians and echo the disinformation spewed by the politicians--no matter that neither the industry groups nor the politicians nor the goobers are scientists or have scientific expertise. So on the one side we have science and scientists--responsible for all the advances in our history--and on the other side we have the scoffers and the sophists, who want to protect the status quo. Put me down on the side of science--always. Those who try to argue against science are political, stupid and self-interested.
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LOL The left and 'sCiEncE'. You are only interested in 'science' until it gives you the answer you want. Then you turn it off.
 
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turbovol said:
Anybody with half a brain and a bit of common sense should realize that 9 billion people living on a big rock and chopping down forests, dumping vast amounts of toxins into waterways and the ground, and spewing massive volumes of carbon particulates into the atmosphere for 150 years is going to have deleterious effects on the planet. There's a reason there's been serious, serious drought and water shortages in the American West. There's a reason animal species have been steadily disappearing--that bees, frogs and 1,000 other species are under threat. The world's bird population is dwindling.

Scientists study issues and raise concerns and note problems, or potential problems---they evaulate future consequences of current activities. And then we have politicians and industry groups and assorted others who are not concerned with future consequences and who want to maintain the status quo--their profits, their cushy job in congress, their lifestyle. And these people not only resist any research or regulations that might jeopardize their status quo, they spend heavily to spew disinformation and cloud these issues for the public--a notorious industry tactic. The tobacco industry spent decades covering up the dangers of cigarette smoking; the chemical industry spends huge sums of money to camouflage the fact that its products are dangerous and cause serious health problems.

Politicians carry water for these industry groups--echo their disinformation--because the industry groups contribute to their campaigns and the pols want to be reelected. They may also be ideologically opposed to regulation--which is stupid. And then goobers listen to the politicians and echo the disinformation spewed by the politicians--no matter that neither the industry groups nor the politicians nor the goobers are scientists or have scientific expertise. So on the one side we have science and scientists--responsible for all the advances in our history--and on the other side we have the scoffers and the sophists, who want to protect the status quo. Put me down on the side of science--always. Those who try to argue against science are political, stupid and self-interested.
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Where in "science" is a beating heart not life?
 
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turbovol said:
Anybody with half a brain and a bit of common sense should realize that 9 billion people living on a big rock and chopping down forests, dumping vast amounts of toxins into waterways and the ground, and spewing massive volumes of carbon particulates into the atmosphere for 150 years is going to have deleterious effects on the planet. There's a reason there's been serious, serious drought and water shortages in the American West. There's a reason animal species have been steadily disappearing--that bees, frogs and 1,000 other species are under threat. The world's bird population is dwindling.

Scientists study issues and raise concerns and note problems, or potential problems---they evaulate future consequences of current activities. And then we have politicians and industry groups and assorted others who are not concerned with future consequences and who want to maintain the status quo--their profits, their cushy job in congress, their lifestyle. And these people not only resist any research or regulations that might jeopardize their status quo, they spend heavily to spew disinformation and cloud these issues for the public--a notorious industry tactic. The tobacco industry spent decades covering up the dangers of cigarette smoking; the chemical industry spends huge sums of money to camouflage the fact that its products are dangerous and cause serious health problems.

Politicians carry water for these industry groups--echo their disinformation--because the industry groups contribute to their campaigns and the pols want to be reelected. They may also be ideologically opposed to regulation--which is stupid. And then goobers listen to the politicians and echo the disinformation spewed by the politicians--no matter that neither the industry groups nor the politicians nor the goobers are scientists or have scientific expertise. So on the one side we have science and scientists--responsible for all the advances in our history--and on the other side we have the scoffers and the sophists, who want to protect the status quo. Put me down on the side of science--always. Those who try to argue against science are political, stupid and self-interested.
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I can see how serious this issue is for you. Please allow me to help you do your part...I will take all the things you own/use which, personally and corporately, contribute to this dire situation.
 
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Paris summit aims to overhaul global financial system for 'climate solidarity' with South

$4T year
Just where will the money come from?
Batshit authoritarians

NGOs are already putting forward a number of ideas. First, they are calling for taxes to be introduced on the biggest polluters, in particular fossil fuel companies, due to "their historic responsibility for climate chaos". In early June, 12 associations signed a petition asking Macron to tax the fossil fuel industry. They had gathered more than 31,000 signatures as of June 21. "This tax would enable us to raise up to $300 trillion," said Fanny Petitbon, head of advocacy for the NGO CARE France.
 
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turbovol said:
Anybody with half a brain and a bit of common sense should realize that 9 billion people living on a big rock and chopping down forests, dumping vast amounts of toxins into waterways and the ground, and spewing massive volumes of carbon particulates into the atmosphere for 150 years is going to have deleterious effects on the planet. There's a reason there's been serious, serious drought and water shortages in the American West. There's a reason animal species have been steadily disappearing--that bees, frogs and 1,000 other species are under threat. The world's bird population is dwindling.

Scientists study issues and raise concerns and note problems, or potential problems---they evaulate future consequences of current activities. And then we have politicians and industry groups and assorted others who are not concerned with future consequences and who want to maintain the status quo--their profits, their cushy job in congress, their lifestyle. And these people not only resist any research or regulations that might jeopardize their status quo, they spend heavily to spew disinformation and cloud these issues for the public--a notorious industry tactic. The tobacco industry spent decades covering up the dangers of cigarette smoking; the chemical industry spends huge sums of money to camouflage the fact that its products are dangerous and cause serious health problems.

Politicians carry water for these industry groups--echo their disinformation--because the industry groups contribute to their campaigns and the pols want to be reelected. They may also be ideologically opposed to regulation--which is stupid. And then goobers listen to the politicians and echo the disinformation spewed by the politicians--no matter that neither the industry groups nor the politicians nor the goobers are scientists or have scientific expertise. So on the one side we have science and scientists--responsible for all the advances in our history--and on the other side we have the scoffers and the sophists, who want to protect the status quo. Put me down on the side of science--always. Those who try to argue against science are political, stupid and self-interested.
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What does science say? What's the situation, what does the future hold if we maintain status quo, and what results will optional courses of action have?
 
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turbovol said:
Anybody with half a brain and a bit of common sense should realize that 9 billion people living on a big rock and chopping down forests, dumping vast amounts of toxins into waterways and the ground, and spewing massive volumes of carbon particulates into the atmosphere for 150 years is going to have deleterious effects on the planet. There's a reason there's been serious, serious drought and water shortages in the American West. There's a reason animal species have been steadily disappearing--that bees, frogs and 1,000 other species are under threat. The world's bird population is dwindling.

Scientists study issues and raise concerns and note problems, or potential problems---they evaulate future consequences of current activities. And then we have politicians and industry groups and assorted others who are not concerned with future consequences and who want to maintain the status quo--their profits, their cushy job in congress, their lifestyle. And these people not only resist any research or regulations that might jeopardize their status quo, they spend heavily to spew disinformation and cloud these issues for the public--a notorious industry tactic. The tobacco industry spent decades covering up the dangers of cigarette smoking; the chemical industry spends huge sums of money to camouflage the fact that its products are dangerous and cause serious health problems.

Politicians carry water for these industry groups--echo their disinformation--because the industry groups contribute to their campaigns and the pols want to be reelected. They may also be ideologically opposed to regulation--which is stupid. And then goobers listen to the politicians and echo the disinformation spewed by the politicians--no matter that neither the industry groups nor the politicians nor the goobers are scientists or have scientific expertise. So on the one side we have science and scientists--responsible for all the advances in our history--and on the other side we have the scoffers and the sophists, who want to protect the status quo. Put me down on the side of science--always. Those who try to argue against science are political, stupid and self-interested.
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