Let's Keep Pearl

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#151
Oh come on hmanvolfan, gimme a little more credit than that. Evolution was being discussed on the thread long before I joined in.
 
#154
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VolVandy said:
Beats the alternative.
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Only if you are right. You better hope you are, or you are in trouble with Allah, Vishnu, etc.

See how I did that? I took your argument, reversed it, and slung it at you. Doesn't make much sense does it? It never did.
 
#155
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SamRebel35 said:
I would have lost control of my bowels at 160 mph. That's why I don't borrow my friends' dad's Porsches. Hahaha. I don't have the patience to read all the posts, but how did the thread get onto evolution and such?
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I was too white-knuckled and tight-sphinctered for it to be much fun. My main memory is how of beautifully and magically everybody for two miles in front of me seemed to be so eager to get out of the way. It took literally something like three minutes to get from Solway to the exit ramp at Cedar Bluff. I really deserved to be hauled away in legirons.

As far as how the thread got to evolution, it went something like:

Hat: UT might as well have a fictional character like Jesus as its coach
Tenacious D: You're an idiot too; anti-science sentiment
Me: HAHAHAHA, I'll see your anti-science sentiment and make fun of you because you think the world was created in 4004 BC
Tenacious D: Don't put words in my mouth, JA; but evolution is stupid and anyone who believes it is blindly adhering to a questionable theory to show how intelletcually enlightened they are
Me: FU and go roast pinecones over a peat fire for dinner if you don't like science

Etc. Nothing is quite as intellectually satisfying as arguing on the Internet, is it?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
As far as how the thread got to evolution, it went something like:

Hat: UT might as well have a fictional character like Jesus as its coach
Tenacious D: You're an idiot too; anti-science sentiment
Me: HAHAHAHA, I'll see your anti-science sentiment and make fun of you because you think the world was created in 4004 BC
Tenacious D: Don't put words in my mouth, JA; but evolution is stupid and anyone who believes it is blindly adhering to a questionable theory to show how intelletcually enlightened they are
Me: FU and go roast pinecones over a peat fire for dinner if you don't like science

Etc. Nothing is quite as intellectually satisfying as arguing on the Internet, is it?
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Haha internet arguing is great because its anonymous. You can make as big an a$$ of yourself as you want.

BTW I responded to you half court offense thing in another thread earlier today. Don't know if it was merged or what, but I gave as good an explaination as I could based on my limited knowledge of x's and o's.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Haha internet arguing is great because its anonymous. You can make as big an a$$ of yourself as you want.

BTW I responded to you half court offense thing in another thread earlier today. Don't know if it was merged or what, but I gave as good an explaination as I could based on my limited knowledge of x's and o's.
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I saw it, although I didn't actually get a chance to respond before it was merged or I was entangled in some other equally dumb argument or my two kids needed me to actually interface with them here in the real world.

Anyway, I don't dislike Pearl at all. I like the energy; I like him being on PTI; I like the orange jacket. I like the salesmanship. The problem is that the salesmanship seems to have taken on a life of its own. I.e, if you come on this board criticizing some aspect of what Bruce Pearl The Basketball Coach has done, people don't respond by defending Bruce Pearl The Basketball Coach. Instead, they jump out of their skins defending Bruce Pearl The Tennessee Marketing Phenomenon. It's hard to have an actual conversation when you're talking about two different things at the same time, you know?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I.e, if you come on this board criticizing some aspect of what Bruce Pearl The Basketball Coach has done, people don't respond by defending Bruce Pearl The Basketball Coach. Instead, they jump out of their skins defending Bruce Pearl The Tennessee Marketing Phenomenon. It's hard to have an actual conversation when you're talking about two different things at the same time, you know?
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Yeah, I can see how people could have a knee-jerk reaction.

I think, though, in regard to the lack of half court O, that we have not had the right PG's for the halfcourt. Ramar and Bobby were more like slashing and dashing players rather than driving and dishing players. Let's not forget that the half court O was pretty good with CJ Watson at the helm. If this Goins guy is a CJ type player then Pearl's offensive system could flourish once again. Your thoughts? As I mentioned, I don't claim to be a basketball x's and o's guru.
 
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#162
I don't really think Pearl has an "offensive system," per se. It's been transition bucket or three-pointer or die for four years now. If we brought in a real PG, then obviously he'd make everything run more smoothly and look better, but it'd be all about his skill and not the system. Because what happened in Dayton says that we don't have a system right now.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I don't really think Pearl has an "offensive system," per se. It's been transition bucket or three-pointer or die for four years now. If we brought in a real PG, then obviously he'd make everything run more smoothly and look better, but it'd be all about his skill and not the system. Because what happened in Dayton says that we don't have a system right now.
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Perhaps you're right. When you talk about the offense being dependent on a player being skilled to make the system look like, well, a system, I think its important to consider that the teams that are typically classified as elite teams always have a very skilled PG. I think if Tennessee had a CJ Watson this year and last year, then Mike Hamilton would have been paying Pearl a lot more to stay because we may well have gone to an Elite 8 or Final 4. Just my thoughts. I gotta go to bed though. Peace to you.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I was too white-knuckled and tight-sphinctered for it to be much fun. My main memory is how of beautifully and magically everybody for two miles in front of me seemed to be so eager to get out of the way. It took literally something like three minutes to get from Solway to the exit ramp at Cedar Bluff. I really deserved to be hauled away in legirons.

As far as how the thread got to evolution, it went something like:

Hat: UT might as well have a fictional character like Jesus as its coach
Tenacious D: You're an idiot too; anti-science sentiment
Me: HAHAHAHA, I'll see your anti-science sentiment and make fun of you because you think the world was created in 4004 BC
Tenacious D: Don't put words in my mouth, JA; but evolution is stupid and anyone who believes it is blindly adhering to a questionable theory to show how intelletcually enlightened they are
Me: FU and go roast pinecones over a peat fire for dinner if you don't like science

Etc. Nothing is quite as intellectually satisfying as arguing on the Internet, is it?
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Actually, I started it by responding to hat saying no one could be as important as him, and he responded about otherwise sane people believing in burning bushes, etc. and tenacious-d had a good response about believing the world just magically spontaneously combusted into existence without any help from an outside source.

But, go ahead and try to make the one that likes to argue points other than your own out to be the a--hole if you like.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
The "mutations are inherently destructive" argument is normally made by young-earth creationists, and although those guys may be your intellectual brothers-in-arms, it's a fallacy to assume that you subscribe to their dogma. I should not have gone straight to the 6000 year old earth argument, and I apologize for it.

But still. Evolution is quote, glaringly questionable? Really? I love how you guys get wireless access to the immediate, worldwide Internet to post about how much science sucks. You're living in what would have been regarded even five hundred years ago as a freaking magical universe. Your house is warm in the winter and cool in the summer. You can sit in a chair inside a piece of metal and go across the ground six times faster than a horse can run, or you can sit in a chair in the sky and fly across a continent in three hours. You have a piece of glass in your house on which you can watch what other people are doing all the way around the world. You know when it's going to rain three days ahead of time. Your water does not make you sick when you drink it. All this stuff is thanks to science -- European and American science, specifically, if you want to get jingoistic -- and yet the second that any arm of this benevolent scientific framework (astronomy, physics, biology, anthropology, etc.) that has shaped every minute of your pampered magical life runs up against the first book of Genesis, you're willing to throw the whole thing out and shriek about its horrific agenda.

My dad is a devout Christian who believes in the Big Bang, who believes in evolution -- and who believes that God intimately directed all of it for his own purposes. Science is not the enemy. Unless, of course, your air conditioner and your car and your TV and your computer and your grocery store and your weather forecast are also the enemy.
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Vercingetorix, you falsely assumed that my comments were some dogmatic attack on science itself, and its incalculable contributions to both mankind and the world around us. Quite to the contrary, I believe science remains one of the few (if only) realms where truth should be most freely and unwaveringly pursued - regardless as to where such may lead, or whom it may serve. In fact, my personal religious beliefs aside, I can't think of a many issues more worthy of being carefully and fully pursued than that of macro-evolutionary theory. As such can only be accomplished through the rigors of scientific study (and not with theological precepts), I certainly don't question science, but rather, I count on it. I make mention of this again, not to incite the next round of off-topic banter, but to make one last attempt to better clarify my comments. If you'd like to discuss it futher, please PM me, and we can exchange e-mail addresses to do so.

I apologize for hijacking the thread with my off-topic comments.

BPV - who I actually enjoy reading - took a shot at my personal beliefs (i.e. resurrection, etc.) and my subsequent response unintentionally (though not unforseeably) set off a chain reaction of equally unrelated content. As such, I'll respectfully withdraw further public comment on this notbaly off-topic subject.
 
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Tenacious D said:
BPV - who I actually enjoy reading - took a shot at my personal beliefs (i.e. resurrection, etc.) and my subsequent response unintentionally (though not unforseeably) set off a chain reaction of equally unrelated content. As such, I'll respectfully withdraw further public comment on this notbaly off-topic subject.
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I'm not shooting at your personal beliefs. I actually share them at least tangentially, but I firmly believe that there is room for God and evolutionary theory, even at the macro level.
 
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#167
All things evolve to survive or they die off. I just don't believe that I came from an ape. But, if I did, why did I stop evolving? Am I doing something wrong in my evolution? Or, did I become the perfect specimen? If I am the perfect specimen, why do I die?

Just so much easier for me to believe that I was put on this earth from a higher being for some kind of purpose. Do evolutionist ever explain where the microorganism came from? Serious question.
 
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ridethelightening said:
All things evolve to survive or they die off. I just don't believe that I came from an ape. But, if I did, why did I stop evolving? Am I doing something wrong in my evolution? Or, did I become the perfect specimen? If I am the perfect specimen, why do I die?

Just so much easier for me to believe that I was put on this earth from a higher being for some kind of purpose. Do evolutionist ever explain where the microorganism came from? Serious question.
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why do you believe you have stopped evolving?
 
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#171
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both willing and able? Then whence cometh evil?
Is neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

The Greeks had it right.
 
#172
#172
Wow what a place for a theology lesson. I don't have enough faith to believe in the evoltion miracles but I do have faith in Galations 2:20 - basically that Christ loves me and gave himself for me.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both willing and able? Then whence cometh evil?
Is neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

The Greeks had it right.
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Except for perspective. There were many things my parents demanded of me and allowed me to go through that I didn't understand at the time i was growing up.

Now that my perspective has changed some things have become clearer.

How is a human, limited to viewing and filtering things only from our perspective supposed to understand God's way of thinking?

Granted this assumes one believes in God.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
why do you believe you have stopped evolving?
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No, but if we came from apes, why are there still apes? Why don't apes evolve into a human? Don't they see how much cooler we are?

tidwell said:
You mean the evolution process didn't only take a couple decades?
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Not sure if your sarcasm is aimed at me, but when I said "I" I meant the human race

hatvol96 said:
About as often as "believers" explain the origins of this God character they are so fond of.
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As good of an answer as any, but God explained himself to us. He is, was, and always will be.

hatvol96 said:
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both willing and able? Then whence cometh evil?
Is neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

The Greeks had it right.
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You didn't answer one question, is God willing to prevent evil? He was, but we chose to know evil anyways.
 
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ridethelightening said:
No, but if we came from apes, why are there still apes? Why don't apes evolve into a human? Don't they see how much cooler we are?



Not sure if your sarcasm is aimed at me, but when I said "I" I meant the human race



As good of an answer as any, but God explained himself to us. He is, was, and always will be.



You didn't answer one question, is God willing to prevent evil? He was, but we chose to know evil anyways.
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So, this alleged all powerful being can have his will overidden by mere mortals? That's a pretty weak deity.
 
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