Gun control debate (merged)

[luthervol]

This is what I’m interested in @luthervol

At best, it would say In one way or another that rational and reasonable restrictions and regulations are not infringements.

 

[illumiVOLi]

So how does a gun confiscated from a crime in OK get traced to the original purchaser in GA?
And do you think that it should be traceable?

You think the government throws away background checks?

 

[85SugarVol]

At best, it would say In one way or another that rational and reasonable restrictions and regulations are not infringements.

You said it would be “far worse” and “basically repeal…”

Tell me more.

 

[C-south]

At best, it would say In one way or another that rational and reasonable restrictions and regulations are not infringements.

A restriction is an infringement. If we went by “rational and reasonable restrictions” it would have the reverse effect that you’re shooting for based on the 2A.

 

[hog88]

At best, it would say In one way or another that rational and reasonable restrictions and regulations are not infringements.

A restriction is an infringement.

 

[luthervol]

U.S. Attorney’s Office Provides Update on Chicago Firearms Trafficking Strike Force.

According to gun trace data, a significant number of firearms recovered in Chicago originate outside Chicago and are illegally trafficked into the city. The strike force has strengthened coordination between law enforcement in Chicago and counterparts in the locations where many of the firearms originate. In providing the update on the strike force’s efforts, U.S. Attorney Lausch was joined by U.S. Attorneys from around the Midwest.

“Firearms traffickers and straw purchasers enable violence,” said U.S. Attorney Lausch. “Over the past year, the cross-jurisdictional strike force has increased collaboration with our law enforcement partners and enhanced our longstanding efforts to hold accountable individuals or groups who illegally traffic firearms into Chicago.”

 

[luthervol]

You think the government throws away background checks?

Are you saying there is already a national registry?

 

[luthervol]

You said it would be “far worse” and “basically repeal…”

Tell me more.

Just you your imagination, that's all I would be doing.

 

[Vol8188]

U.S. Attorney’s Office Provides Update on Chicago Firearms Trafficking Strike Force.

According to gun trace data, a significant number of firearms recovered in Chicago originate outside Chicago and are illegally trafficked into the city. The strike force has strengthened coordination between law enforcement in Chicago and counterparts in the locations where many of the firearms originate. In providing the update on the strike force’s efforts, U.S. Attorney Lausch was joined by U.S. Attorneys from around the Midwest.

“Firearms traffickers and straw purchasers enable violence,” said U.S. Attorney Lausch. “Over the past year, the cross-jurisdictional strike force has increased collaboration with our law enforcement partners and enhanced our longstanding efforts to hold accountable individuals or groups who illegally traffic firearms into Chicago.”

What in your mind, did this prove

 

[luthervol]

A restriction is an infringement.

It's not..........
But if that is a sticking point, then the amendment will simply remove the "shall not be infringed" portion.

 

[Vol8188]

It's not..........
But if that is a sticking point, then the amendment will simply remove the "shall not be infringed" portion.

And then you’ll have two countries instead of one

 

[luthervol]

And then you’ll have two countries instead of one

You are just confirming that gun nuts cannot be rational or reasonable.

 

[VolStrom]

You are just confirming that gun nuts my side cannot be rational or reasonable.

 

[Vol8188]

You are just confirming that gun nuts cannot be rational or reasonable.

Lol changing the constitution so you can take guns is not “rational” nor “reasonable”

 

[hog88]

It's not..........
But if that is a sticking point, then the amendment will simply remove the "shall not be infringed" portion.

Good, get working on it.

 

[85SugarVol]

Just you your imagination, that's all I would be doing.

It’s your imagination I’m interested in.

There must be something to make these comparative statements like “far worse”.

 

[luthervol]

It’s your imagination I’m interested in.

There must be something to make these comparative statements like “far worse”.

What could possibly be far worse?

 

[C-south]

You are just confirming that gun nuts cannot be rational or reasonable.

Is that what Britain said?

 

[85SugarVol]

What could possibly be far worse?

That’s why I’m asking you. You said far worse.

 

[luthervol]

That’s why I’m asking you. You said far worse.

Right. What is the worst case scenario?

 

[85SugarVol]

Right. What is the worst case scenario?

I didn’t make the statement.

Are you saying you don’t want to put forth for public consumption what “far worse” looks like to you?

 

[82_VOL_83]

Far more regulated than automobiles????? Are you nuts?
I would be happy to see a system where people had to bring their guns in annually to be tested and re-certified.

I have lived in 5 states and have never done that, not once.

 

[82_VOL_83]

With turns and rate of speed being contributors to automobile accidents, I propose that cars should only be allowed to make x number of turns in y minutes, and that speed tops out at the given speed limit for any given roadway.

if there is an emergency and you need to get to a hospital, etc, tough $#!+.

Can't go faster because you don't "need" to.

 

[82_VOL_83]

It's obvious he has zero knowledge of firearms, or why they are even used. The idea is ludicrous. I was assuming he knew that and was just yanking our chain. Then I realized he was clueless.

Oh no, I believe he knows. I think he is a troll. The reason I respond, and shouldn't, is that there are people running around actually as stupid as he pretends to be.

 

[luthervol]

I didn’t make the statement.

Are you saying you don’t want to put forth for public consumption what “far worse” looks like to you?

It's better left vague.