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Cosmo Kramer said:
For every Josh Allen there are 50 Jake Lockers.
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As it must be.

NFL quarterbacking will forever be a top heavy area, with 15+ teams happy to upgrade each year. Take 5 "top QBs" for a decade and there's 50 QBs for 32 teams. Then add in all the misfits, there's another couple hundred and some will work out. And out of those few hundred, only 10 are really loved at the NFL level.

But go ahead and take Levis rather than a 10-15 year pro career at left tackle. 😆
 
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Ace said:
I am hearing lots of stories of P5 coaches pulling scholarships of players. Many of these players in portal are being forced into portal. Some are near graduation and are losing scholarships. This is not just Colorado, it is everywhere. NIL and transfer portal have really hurt players who love to play, but also want an education. NCAA and many coaches are proving once again that they care nothing about student athletes. $$$$
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These are the follks that need to be getting outed. You can't pull scholarships, especially with guaranteed multiyear scholarships that have been around for 8 years now in the A5/Power 5 conferences. It is protected. Total BS.
 
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Devo182 said:
As it must be.

NFL quarterbacking will forever be a top heavy area, with 15+ teams happy to upgrade each year. Take 5 "top QBs" for a decade and there's 50 QBs for 32 teams. Then add in all the misfits, there's another couple hundred and some will work out. And out of those few hundred, only 10 are really loved at the NFL level.

But go ahead and take Levis rather than a 10-15 year pro career at left tackle. 😆
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The problem is that with the rookie deals now it's so much more profitable to try and hit on the franchise QB every draft.

Lots of super bowl teams have had QBs still on their rookie deals it's actually more cost efficient than what the Jets are trying to do.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Scholarships have always been 1 year agreements. If coaches are choosing not to renew, that’s on the coaches. The portal isn’t making the decision, the human coach is.

But the overall root cause is the same as it is in every situation when something seemingly pure gets perverted - money.
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They used to be, in some ways.

But they have been protected since the 2015 passing of guaranteed multiyears (for Autonomous 5 schools). You basically have to break team rules or do something awful to not get the next year.


I agree it's not the portal's fault, but I do think it was a common concern once they passed the "one out, one in" temporary rule where the only thing limiting a class is the 85 limit. It gives crappy coaches a ton of leeway to be crappy and try to get away with it.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
You mean ANY superstar QBs...and I never disagreed with that. Veer and shoot though has yet to produce even a decent QB to see as many starts as any 1 of the 3 QBs from Bama I named.

Definitely think Heupel will change that. Hooker getting hurt likely lands him on a quality team and he will have a better shot at success in the NFL than Will Levis or Anthony Richardson (both likely landing on bad teams).
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Well yeah I mean QB? We aren’t talking about anything else?
Whatchu mean? The Mayo man is gonna be the next John elway
 
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Devo182 said:
They used to be, in some ways.

But they have been protected since the 2015 passing of guaranteed multiyears (for Autonomous 5 schools). You basically have to break team rules or do something awful to not get the next year.
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The flip side of the free agency. Flexibility for players leads to flexibility for teams.
 
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Devo182 said:
These are the follks that need to be getting outed. You can't pull scholarships, especially with guaranteed multiyear scholarships that have been around for 8 years now in the A5/Power 5 conferences. It is protected. Total BS.
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Nobody has pulled anyone’s scholarship….. they are being told to get….. we have told players that they need to leave as well.
 
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Ace said:
They currently have 67 players on scholarship. He can bring in 18 more. Only about 20-25 where on last years team
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Okay. People keep acting like he’s going to get 70 players from the portal. Think some are intentionally wording it so it sounds that way from some of the Tweets I have read.
 
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volbeast33 said:
We were discussing that no qb had been successful in the NFL from the beer and shoot….I was talking about Heupel’s version and Art Briles bc they are similar. As a qb coach…. They ran the Air Raid offense at that time… Heup didn’t start incorporating veer and shoot concepts till near the end of his time at Oklahoma… I do think that Heupel can develop QBs…. Guys from this offense just need to prove it on the NFL level.
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Beer and shoot? Now we talking about Bray?
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
The problem is that with the rookie deals now it's so much more profitable to try and hit on the franchise QB every draft.

Lots of super bowl teams have had QBs still on their rookie deals it's actually more cost efficient than what the Jets are trying to do.
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If I was a team….. I would build a stacked team at every position except qb…. Then try dropping a stud qb into the mix…. Go and dominate for the next 5 years.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
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I stole the joke cause we have a meeting on Wednesdays, and each week somebody gets the joke, i get it often cause im the biggest fool there, so boss puts it on a big tv screen and made me read it with an Italian accent

I told em i stole it off this dude on volnation named devinner, who thinks hes cool but wears hideous pink shirts and is so corny its funny every once in a great while
 
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volbeast33 said:
Nobody has pulled anyone’s scholarship….. they are being told to get….. we have told players that they need to leave as well.
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No, I know multiple specific players who were told their scholarships were being pulled at a P5 school. They are not being helped to find new schools. And it is not just Colorado
 
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