Gun control debate (merged)

[85SugarVol]

Nonsense.

The whole argument that we need to be well armed in order to fight our on government is simply beyond absurd.
It ain't goin' to happen!!!!!!
But if it did, there would be countries beating down the door to help the side they consider to be in the right, because the evil side winning would certainly signal the beginning of the next world war.
And as Einstein said. "I don't know what weapons will be used the the third world war, but I know the fourth will be fought with sticks and stones."

No they wouldn’t. This is nonsense. They would be squashed like a bug.

The US Citizenry cannot stand against the US Military. And neither can “Canada”.

 

[hog88]

How insane. You're saying that the US wouldn't hesitate to nuke the world, but they would hesitate to bomb one of their own cities with non nuclear weapons? Do you ever think about how stupid your positions actually are? Of course you don't. How silly of me.

Oh boy. I’ve thought you have posted dumb **** before but man you are topping your dumbest here.

Of course a dying regime will let the bombs and or nukes fly.

 

[85SugarVol]

Oh boy. I’ve thought you have posted dumb **** before but man you are topping your dumbest here.

Of course a dying regime will let the bombs and or nukes fly.

This is his greatest troll yet. I apologize to the entire board for entertaining this.

 

[85SugarVol]

Canada is going to arm the rebels in their fight against Trump

 

[hog88]

You guys are like the dinosaurs caught in the tar pits frantically trying one last time to avoid your own extinction.

You represent such a small and dying minority, a minority rightfully viewed as insane by most.

If you’re correct then our grandkids or great grandkids will look back one day and say “damn that grandpa Luther was a dumbass, thanks to people like him we’re living like subjects instead of citizens”.

 

[hog88]

This is his greatest troll yet. I apologize to the entire board for entertaining this.

I don’t think he’s trolling.

 

[C-south]

What?

Can you imagine a scenario where the US population was actually in a war with the US government?
Under any scenario you imagined, there would be countries coming out of the woodwork to assist the side that was in their best interest.

Good thing we already have a lot of guns.

 

[C-south]

Ha, ha, ha: Good grief: You've mistakenly reinforced his point!

The world has changed since the 18th century. It's the duty of our lawmakers to recognize that and deal with practical, serious problems, like gun violence. This notion that we should tolerate DAILY mass shootings, kids being murdered in their schools, rampant gun violence, because of a recent interpretation of the 2nd amendment--which has been interpreted in the opposite way in the past and SHOULD be interpreted in the opposite way because it quite clearly puts gun ownership in context of local militias that don't exist anymore and have no need to exist--is insane. Do we want to protect the public from gun violence or continue to ignore a massive problem so some yahoos can play sheriff-wannabe? Tough decision! Hell, in the last week there has been a raft of innocent people shot by gun nuts because they knocked on the wrong door, got into the wrong car, kicked a ball into the crazy neighbor's yard, etc. We sadly have people who are ok with having an uncivilized, dangerous country because they're uncivilized themselves.

No interpretation is needed. The forefathers were clear on what the 2A was for.

 

[InVOLuntary]

It's quite simple if you have a brain and a soul.

You've struck out twice.

 

[InVOLuntary]

It would depend on the circumstances and who had "control" of the US government.
Some countries would support the Trumpian side (North Korea, Russia, Saudi Arabia.)
Some countries would support the anti-Trump side (England, Japan, Canada, France, Germany, Mexico)

You left out China on the dems side.

 

[Orangeslice13]

You guys are like the dinosaurs caught in the tar pits frantically trying one last time to avoid your own extinction.

You represent such a small and dying minority, a minority rightfully viewed as insane by most.

Moronic
The problem with government is you have people just as ignorant as you are about guns, passing laws on everything that they know absolutely nothing about.

All the rest of your useless ramblings doesn’t excuse your stupidity

 

[luthervol]

No they wouldn’t. This is nonsense. They would be squashed like a bug.

The US Citizenry cannot stand against the US Military. And neither can “Canada”.

Then what's the whole point about arming yourself? You can't have it both ways

 

[luthervol]

Oh boy. I’ve thought you have posted dumb **** before but man you are topping your dumbest here.

Of course a dying regime will let the bombs and or nukes fly.

Then what will an armed citizenry be good for? Putting the regime on the brink of death so they will use nukes and bombs?
Good grief man, take a step back and listen to yourself.

Can you not see the knots you're tying yourself into?

 

[luthervol]

Moronic
The problem with government is you have people just as ignorant as you are about guns, passing laws on everything that they know absolutely nothing about.

All the rest of your useless ramblings doesn’t excuse your stupidity

There is not a country in the world armed like us. Our gun nuts have it right and the rest of the world has it wrong?
You don't comprehend how idiotic that stance is.

 

[Jxn Vol]

You get the shot?

Heck no

 

[hog88]

Then what will an armed citizenry be good for? Putting the regime on the brink of death so they will use nukes and bombs?
Good grief man, take a step back and listen to yourself.

Can you not see the knots you're tying yourself into?

Take a step back and listen to yourself. The only thing keeping our federal government in some semblance of check is the civilian ownership of firearms.

 

[hog88]

There is not a country in the world armed like us. Our gun nuts have it right and the rest of the world has it wrong?
You don't comprehend how idiotic that stance is.

Yes.

 

[C-south]

There is not a country in the world armed like us. Our gun nuts have it right and the rest of the world has it wrong?
You don't comprehend how idiotic that stance is.

The “gun nuts” were the guys that put it in our constitution. Much of the world has had the luxury of us fighting for their freedom while we fought for our own.

 

[volfanhill]

There is not a country in the world armed like us. Our gun nuts have it right and the rest of the world has it wrong?
You don't comprehend how idiotic that stance is.

We are also the only country on Earth where the citizenry has any shot of overthrowing their government should they need to on a reasonable equal level. I suspect thousands of civilizations wished they had that over the years.

 

[hog88]

We are also the only country on Earth where the citizenry has any shot of the citizenry overthrowing their government should they need to on a reasonable equal level. I suspect thousands of civilizations wished they had that over the years.

Thankfully the revolutionaries ignored the Kings attempt at gun control otherwise we would still be British subjects. Although Luther and his brethren would probably prefer we be.

 

[volfanhill]

Thankfully the revolutionaries ignored the Kings attempt at gun control otherwise we would still be British subjects. Although Luther and his brethren would probably prefer we be.

My guess is he's missed that part of history. More likely choose to ignore why and its impact. These people run around saying stuff like "why would we ever need to go against the government?" Truly naive people

 

[hog88]

My guess is he's missed that part of history.

He’s missed a lot

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Heck no

So quit complaining about mandates.

 

[luthervol]

The “gun nuts” were the guys that put it in our constitution. Much of the world has had the luxury of us fighting for their freedom while we fought for our own.

We are also the only country on Earth where the citizenry has any shot of the citizenry overthrowing their government should they need to on a reasonable equal level. I suspect thousands of civilizations wished they had that over the years.

Thankfully the revolutionaries ignored the Kings attempt at gun control otherwise we would still be British subjects. Although Luther and his brethren would probably prefer we be.

I think I have it now.
If there was a conflict between the US government and the citizens, no country would come to the assistance of the citizens because the US military is so powerful they would obliterate those countries; however. the citizens could use the arms they had accumulated to defeat that same US military.

As proof of this line of reasoning the Revolutionary War is used. A war in which the citizens were armed, supplied, and assisted by France, Spain, and the Netherlands.

Now that's some sound logic.
If nothing else, you guys are good for a chuckle.

 

[VOLS INC.]

I think I have it now.
If there was a conflict between the US government and the citizens, no country would come to the assistance of the citizens because the US military is so powerful they would obliterate those countries; however. the citizens could use the arms they had accumulated to defeat that same US military.

As proof of this line of reasoning the Revolutionary War is used. A war in which the citizens were armed, supplied, and assisted by France, Spain, and the Netherlands.

Now that's some sound logic.
If nothing else, you guys are good for a chuckle.

You are over complicating this. It’s rather simple. Am armed US citizenry acts as a deterrent against authoritarianism. Given the recent surge of the executive branch exercising power that was never granted to them by the US constitution, I for one am thankful for the millions of Americans that exercise their right to bear arms. There is no telling how far our current Govt would be willing to go to infringe on all the rights our fellow countrymen died for if our populace had punted on fighting for and protecting the 2nd amendment.

An armed America scares you. It comforts me. And most on this board. The ones that think reasonably and rationally at least.