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Revived2002 said:
I‘m a huge baseball fan but the team is hard to watch right now. I’m keeping up with the scores but am not making time to watch the games. They don’t seem to have the spark to make comebacks, etc. Not sure if they will hit their stride soon. It’s possible this is just a lost year. Too much talent to replace from last year, and the starting pitchers may be a touch overrated. we will see- lots of ball left to play!
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Watching Burke at the plate and the dugout tells me all I need to know…just isn’t having the same fun playing baseball this year with this team as he did last year…it’s a completely different vibe team wise..
 
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Watching the Orange and White game because I couldn't yesterday.

I'm still so impressed at how everybody, regardless of place on the depth chart (even the walk ons), seem to know where they need to be in a hurry up offense.
Was it perfect? No. But, they still looked very well prepared.

Watching Milton return to the sidelines, you can tell he's a leader and liked among his teammates.

With Milton throwing, I'm not in a hurry to play Nico. But I also can't wait until this offense is his.

Cam Seldon is going to be an absolute stud.

The defense, while sometimes a step or two behind, looked well prepared and positioned for plays.

I cannot wait for the season! 15-0
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What impressed me the most and it may not be much is the defense looked faster and quicker to the ball…they were swarming
 
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It's raining 3 stars on rocky top! Where are the blue chippers at?? Thought this class was DEFINTELY going to be better but it looks as if it's going just like last year. Not good enough to close the gap on Georgia.
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WTF? It’s April, last I looked it’s nowhere close to ESD. Geez, your screen name says it all.
 
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What impressed me the most and it may not be much is the defense looked faster and quicker to the ball…they were swarming
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I was surprised by how quick Nico is. I knew he was athletic, but he was moving around a lot better than I imagined he would.

I used to watch the O&W game and think, "ok, we might be alright this year, if we get some breaks". . . I watch these guys and I'm nervous to say what I think, almost in disbelief that this team could be as good or better than last year. No way, right? Sure does look like we're gonna be pretty good. . .
 
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Check out two of the comments on here

Someone saying Moore should start and Nico back him up.

Another says that he wishes Joe understood the offense as well as Moore and that he'd only want Santiago Vescovi back.

I just hope they're trolling because getting around in life that dumb would have to be difficult.
 
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I was surprised by how quick Nico is. I knew he was athletic, but he was moving around a lot better than I imagined he would.

I used to watch the O&W game and think, "ok, we might be alright this year, if we get some breaks". . . I watch these guys and I'm nervous to say what I think, almost in disbelief that this team could be as good or better than last year. No way, right? Sure does look like we're gonna be pretty good. . .
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I said earlier in the spring that I thought maybe we might only have a couple toss-up games this year based on Bill Connelly’s first edition preseason SP+ with those two teams being Alabama and Georgia. I think there are some other games which could be tough, A&M for example. A&M has a lot of talent and the most returning production in the conference. SP+ favors us in that game but I think A&M could be underrated depending on how much dysfunction or lack thereof their coaching staff has to deal with this year. jmo.

I think UF will likely be much improved on defense this year. Napier is sort of like Kirby, Stoops, and Narduzzi. He wants to put a good defense on the field and control the ball on offense. Some UF fans are in dismay with that approach as the thinking is if you don’t have an elite offense nowadays you can’t really play catch up very well if you fall behind on the scoreboard. The problem Napier will have with us is that our defense is designed to stop the run and we were wildly successful at that last year and I think could be even better this year. I think Napier could be a couple years away from having the team he wants. He is doing pretty good in recruiting so far. jmo.

While I think A&M may likely be underrated coming into this year, I think UK and MO are overrated. I think Alabama and probably Georgia are somewhat overrated as to some extent they often are due to their recruiting success. It doesn’t mean they don’t win; it means the margin of their wins is often overestimated in the preseason and I attribute that to the weighting given to their outperformance in recruiting. Alabama is near the bottom of FBS in returning production and has to contend with new coordinators on both sides of the ball as well as fielding a new QB. We’ll also be their 8th game in a row without a bye. Still, their roster is impressive, even a bit intimidating. Georgia has to deal with a new OC (still Kirby’s offense) and a new QB. Georgia should be expected to continue to be elite on defense. jmo.

South Carolina has a new OC and has struggled to field a competent OL. Beamer is working on the OL in recruiting. I think the outcome of last year’s game was the result of a labor dispute on our end and essentially a defensive walkout. We had a defensive stop rate of 70% on the year but against SC our stop rate was 10%. That was mostly on us. Still, they did beat Clemson, so it wasn’t totally a fluke. I think we gave them a lot of confidence. Without exception it seemed their fans were expecting to be annihilated by us before the game. They were ready to not only fire Satterfield but many were ready to move on from Beamer. We gave him a new lease on his job. jmo.

Interestingly, Mike Ekeler in his spring media appearance pointed out that our special teams units were 2nd best in the conference last year and he wants us to be #1. We were 9th best in the nation. The #1 team for special team units in the conference was SC. They were also #1 in the nation last year.

I know it’s popular to make fun of Beamer and Napier but I’m sort of keeping an eye on them because I think they may not turn out to be the jokes that we want them to be. jmo.

On our side, I agree with you in that I was really impressed with Nico in the O&W game. Specifically, I thought he was poised, in control, smart, great vision, very elusive, mobile, great arm, and aggressive. Both he and Joe were throwing into double coverage at times and I don’t know if that’s what we wanted them to do. Halzle says he wants them to be aggressive but not reckless. I’m posting Nico’s O&W film below and I suggest slowing the video down to half-speed (also mute the sound) to see it better. He does a really good job, a lot farther along with the offense than I expected. I’m thinking he’ll probably be ready by the time we get done with fall camp. I could say he’s got Heisman and #1 pick written all over him but I don’t want to get ahead of myself. He reminds me of Bryce Young, only bigger and better. jmo.

I’ve always had hope for Joe simply because unlike Hendon I don’t think Joe ever had early development and I don’t know how coachable he may have been in his younger years. I think he may have always relied on his size, athleticism, and arm talent and no one pushed him beyond that. The thing with Heupel is that he has always had a QB, Sam Bradford and Landry Jones at OU, plus he took Trevor Knight to the Sugar Bowl and beat Alabama. He had Chuckie Keaton at Utah State, Drew Lock at Missouri, and McKenzie Milton and Dillon Gabriel at UCF. Brent Hubbs said he thought we’d miss Hendon’s elusiveness this year with Joe. I think one of the extraordinary traits Hendon has is his competitiveness. Joe said he was focused on having fun which is probably what Halzle wants him to focus on right now. Make mistakes and fail forward. Halzle said last year one issue he had to correct with Hendon was Hendon was all business on the football field but on the basketball court he was the best player and (maybe because) he had fun playing so Joey told him he wanted him to play football the way he played basketball. Obviously, that instruction paid off. jmo.

Also in the video below I think you can see that often we’re playing much tighter coverage in the secondary, something we seemingly didn’t often do last year, especially against our more talented opponents. I’ve assumed that the staff on that side of the ball hasn’t been all that trusting of the DBs we’ve had/have matching up with NFL receivers, so we may or may not see that when we take the field in the fall against better QBs. jmo.

One last note. Over the years I’ve had this ongoing argument with Bill Connelly regarding the importance of OL returning production. Everyone it seems recognizes that OL is a developmental group and the general rule is that it takes 3 years to develop an offensive lineman. Connelly before going to ESPN maintained that he found no correlation between OL returning production and the expected offensive performance for that year. Well, he has now had a change of mind. I note this because, Drinkwitz “fired” his OL coach after their spring practice, Kentucky really struggled with their OL last year (#107 rushing last year) and haven’t solve it yet for this year. SC and UF are also at the moment a good ways from having quality OLs for the coming season. SC couldn’t run the ball last year either (#106 in the nation). UF seems to have lost just about everybody to either the NFL or the portal. We’ve got Cooper Mays so even though we lost Carvin and Wright I actually think we could improve on the OL this year, mostly because according to Elarbee Carvin was playing hurt last year. Coop says we’re not there yet which I find encouraging. He knows where we need to get to and I trust him to get us there. jmo.




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I said earlier in the spring that I thought maybe we might only have a couple toss-up games this year based on Bill Connelly’s first edition preseason SP+ with those two teams being Alabama and Georgia. I think there are some other games which could be tough, A&M for example. A&M has a lot of talent and the most returning production in the conference. SP+ favors us in that game but I think A&M could be underrated depending on how much dysfunction or lack thereof their coaching staff has to deal with this year. jmo.

I think UF will likely be much improved on defense this year. Napier is sort of like Kirby, Stoops, and Narduzzi. He wants to put a good defense on the field and control the ball on offense. Some UF fans are in dismay with that approach as the thinking is if you don’t have an elite offense nowadays you can’t really play catch up very well if you fall behind on the scoreboard. The problem Napier will have with us is that our defense is designed to stop the run and we were wildly successful at that last year and I think could be even better this year. I think Napier could be a couple years away from having the team he wants. He is doing pretty good in recruiting so far. jmo.

While I think A&M may likely be underrated coming into this year, I think UK and MO are overrated. I think Alabama and probably Georgia are somewhat overrated as to some extent they often are due to their recruiting success. It doesn’t mean they don’t win; it means the margin of their wins is often overestimated in the preseason and I attribute that to the weighting given to their outperformance in recruiting. Alabama is near the bottom of FBS in returning production and has to contend with new coordinators on both sides of the ball as well as fielding a new QB. We’ll also be their 8th game in a row without a bye. Still, their roster is impressive, even a bit intimidating. Georgia has to deal with a new OC (still Kirby’s offense) and a new QB. Georgia should be expected to continue to be elite on defense. jmo.

South Carolina has a new OC and has struggled to field a competent OL. Beamer is working on the OL in recruiting. I think the outcome of last year’s game was the result of a labor dispute on our end and essentially a defensive walkout. We had a defensive stop rate of 70% on the year but against SC our stop rate was 10%. That was mostly on us. Still, they did beat Clemson, so it wasn’t totally a fluke. I think we gave them a lot of confidence. Without exception it seemed their fans were expecting to be annihilated by us before the game. They were ready to not only fire Satterfield but many were ready to move on from Beamer. We gave him a new lease on his job. jmo.

Interestingly, Mike Ekeler in his spring media appearance pointed out that our special teams units were 2nd best in the conference last year and he wants us to be #1. We were 9th best in the nation. The #1 team for special team units in the conference was SC. They were also #1 in the nation last year.

I know it’s popular to make fun of Beamer and Napier but I’m sort of keeping an eye on them because I think they may not turn out to be the jokes that we want them to be. jmo.

On our side, I agree with you in that I was really impressed with Nico in the O&W game. Specifically, I thought he was poised, in control, smart, great vision, very elusive, mobile, great arm, and aggressive. Both he and Joe were throwing into double coverage at times and I don’t know if that’s what we wanted them to do. Halzle says he wants them to be aggressive but not reckless. I’m posting Nico’s O&W film below and I suggest slowing the video down to half-speed (also mute the sound) to see it better. He does a really good job, a lot farther along with the offense than I expected. I’m thinking he’ll probably be ready by the time we get done with fall camp. I could say he’s got Heisman and #1 pick written all over him but I don’t want to get ahead of myself. He reminds me of Bryce Young, only bigger and better. jmo.

I’ve always had hope for Joe simply because unlike Hendon I don’t think Joe ever had early development and I don’t know how coachable he may have been in his younger years. I think he may have always relied on his size, athleticism, and arm talent and no one pushed him beyond that. The thing with Heupel is that he has always had a QB, Sam Bradford and Landry Jones at OU, plus he took Trevor Knight to the Sugar Bowl and beat Alabama. He had Chuckie Keaton at Utah State, Drew Lock at Missouri, and McKenzie Milton and Dillon Gabriel at UCF. Brent Hubbs said he thought we’d miss Hendon’s elusiveness this year with Joe. I think one of the extraordinary traits Hendon has is his competitiveness. Joe said he was focused on having fun which is probably what Halzle wants him to focus on right now. Make mistakes and fail forward. Halzle said last year one issue he had to correct with Hendon was Hendon was all business on the football field but on the basketball court he was the best player and (maybe because) he had fun playing so Joey told him he wanted him to play football the way he played basketball. Obviously, that instruction paid off. jmo.

Also in the video below I think you can see that often we’re playing much tighter coverage in the secondary, something we seemingly didn’t often do last year, especially against our more talented opponents. I’ve assumed that the staff on that side of the ball hasn’t been all that trusting of the DBs we’ve had/have matching up with NFL receivers, so we may or may not see that when we take the field in the fall against better QBs. jmo.

One last note. Over the years I’ve had this ongoing argument with Bill Connelly regarding the importance of OL returning production. Everyone it seems recognizes that OL is a developmental group and the general rule is that it takes 3 years to develop an offensive lineman. Connelly before going to ESPN maintained that he found no correlation between OL returning production and the expected offensive performance for that year. Well, he has now had a change of mind. I note this because, Drinkwitz “fired” his OL coach after their spring practice, Kentucky really struggled with their OL last year (#107 rushing last year) and haven’t solve it yet for this year. SC and UF are also at the moment a good ways from having quality OLs for the coming season. SC couldn’t run the ball last year either (#106 in the nation). UF seems to have lost just about everybody to either the NFL or the portal. We’ve got Cooper Mays so even though we lost Carvin and Wright I actually think we could improve on the OL this year, mostly because according to Elarbee Carvin was playing hurt last year. Coop says we’re not there yet which I find encouraging. He knows where we need to get to and I trust him to get us there. jmo.




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It's raining 3 stars on rocky top! Where are the blue chippers at?? Thought this class was DEFINTELY going to be better but it looks as if it's going just like last year. Not good enough to close the gap on Georgia.
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Many of those 3 stars will move up in rankings. This staff can develop, I'm not worried.
 
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Rough spring game…looks very average…
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So glad that our coaches are excellent talent evaluators. Nico is definitely a great QB in the making.

Is anyone else annoyed that junior used gray jerseys for the QB too? I am already tired of them trying to be like big brother. It’s not cute. And almost universally, their fans are arses…just wait, y’all will be tired of their schtick by 2025…

I just had to educate a longhorn that they are Pepsi to our Coke. Always trying to outdo the original. And always coming up short. 😈

This year We need to be

15-0 🤠
 
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highspeed said:
Just dropped $250 to reserve my stepson’s spot at UT. He’ll be a freshman in the fall. He was 2 when I met his mom. Hard to believe how time flies.
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I met my stepson when he was two as well…I’m not a very emotional guy but he brought tears to my eyes this weekend. He had a heart to heart with his dad( not had much of a relationship with him). My stepson told him that he wanted to have a relationship with him but he was just his father…. He would never be his dad that I was his dad…..congrats on your son getting into Tenn( we don’t use the word step in my family except when talking about the situation…. I have step son and step daughter but they are just my son and daughter… I love them just as much as my other two kids.
 
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I said earlier in the spring that I thought maybe we might only have a couple toss-up games this year based on Bill Connelly’s first edition preseason SP+ with those two teams being Alabama and Georgia. I think there are some other games which could be tough, A&M for example. A&M has a lot of talent and the most returning production in the conference. SP+ favors us in that game but I think A&M could be underrated depending on how much dysfunction or lack thereof their coaching staff has to deal with this year. jmo.

I think UF will likely be much improved on defense this year. Napier is sort of like Kirby, Stoops, and Narduzzi. He wants to put a good defense on the field and control the ball on offense. Some UF fans are in dismay with that approach as the thinking is if you don’t have an elite offense nowadays you can’t really play catch up very well if you fall behind on the scoreboard. The problem Napier will have with us is that our defense is designed to stop the run and we were wildly successful at that last year and I think could be even better this year. I think Napier could be a couple years away from having the team he wants. He is doing pretty good in recruiting so far. jmo.

While I think A&M may likely be underrated coming into this year, I think UK and MO are overrated. I think Alabama and probably Georgia are somewhat overrated as to some extent they often are due to their recruiting success. It doesn’t mean they don’t win; it means the margin of their wins is often overestimated in the preseason and I attribute that to the weighting given to their outperformance in recruiting. Alabama is near the bottom of FBS in returning production and has to contend with new coordinators on both sides of the ball as well as fielding a new QB. We’ll also be their 8th game in a row without a bye. Still, their roster is impressive, even a bit intimidating. Georgia has to deal with a new OC (still Kirby’s offense) and a new QB. Georgia should be expected to continue to be elite on defense. jmo.

South Carolina has a new OC and has struggled to field a competent OL. Beamer is working on the OL in recruiting. I think the outcome of last year’s game was the result of a labor dispute on our end and essentially a defensive walkout. We had a defensive stop rate of 70% on the year but against SC our stop rate was 10%. That was mostly on us. Still, they did beat Clemson, so it wasn’t totally a fluke. I think we gave them a lot of confidence. Without exception it seemed their fans were expecting to be annihilated by us before the game. They were ready to not only fire Satterfield but many were ready to move on from Beamer. We gave him a new lease on his job. jmo.

Interestingly, Mike Ekeler in his spring media appearance pointed out that our special teams units were 2nd best in the conference last year and he wants us to be #1. We were 9th best in the nation. The #1 team for special team units in the conference was SC. They were also #1 in the nation last year.

I know it’s popular to make fun of Beamer and Napier but I’m sort of keeping an eye on them because I think they may not turn out to be the jokes that we want them to be. jmo.

On our side, I agree with you in that I was really impressed with Nico in the O&W game. Specifically, I thought he was poised, in control, smart, great vision, very elusive, mobile, great arm, and aggressive. Both he and Joe were throwing into double coverage at times and I don’t know if that’s what we wanted them to do. Halzle says he wants them to be aggressive but not reckless. I’m posting Nico’s O&W film below and I suggest slowing the video down to half-speed (also mute the sound) to see it better. He does a really good job, a lot farther along with the offense than I expected. I’m thinking he’ll probably be ready by the time we get done with fall camp. I could say he’s got Heisman and #1 pick written all over him but I don’t want to get ahead of myself. He reminds me of Bryce Young, only bigger and better. jmo.

I’ve always had hope for Joe simply because unlike Hendon I don’t think Joe ever had early development and I don’t know how coachable he may have been in his younger years. I think he may have always relied on his size, athleticism, and arm talent and no one pushed him beyond that. The thing with Heupel is that he has always had a QB, Sam Bradford and Landry Jones at OU, plus he took Trevor Knight to the Sugar Bowl and beat Alabama. He had Chuckie Keaton at Utah State, Drew Lock at Missouri, and McKenzie Milton and Dillon Gabriel at UCF. Brent Hubbs said he thought we’d miss Hendon’s elusiveness this year with Joe. I think one of the extraordinary traits Hendon has is his competitiveness. Joe said he was focused on having fun which is probably what Halzle wants him to focus on right now. Make mistakes and fail forward. Halzle said last year one issue he had to correct with Hendon was Hendon was all business on the football field but on the basketball court he was the best player and (maybe because) he had fun playing so Joey told him he wanted him to play football the way he played basketball. Obviously, that instruction paid off. jmo.

Also in the video below I think you can see that often we’re playing much tighter coverage in the secondary, something we seemingly didn’t often do last year, especially against our more talented opponents. I’ve assumed that the staff on that side of the ball hasn’t been all that trusting of the DBs we’ve had/have matching up with NFL receivers, so we may or may not see that when we take the field in the fall against better QBs. jmo.

One last note. Over the years I’ve had this ongoing argument with Bill Connelly regarding the importance of OL returning production. Everyone it seems recognizes that OL is a developmental group and the general rule is that it takes 3 years to develop an offensive lineman. Connelly before going to ESPN maintained that he found no correlation between OL returning production and the expected offensive performance for that year. Well, he has now had a change of mind. I note this because, Drinkwitz “fired” his OL coach after their spring practice, Kentucky really struggled with their OL last year (#107 rushing last year) and haven’t solve it yet for this year. SC and UF are also at the moment a good ways from having quality OLs for the coming season. SC couldn’t run the ball last year either (#106 in the nation). UF seems to have lost just about everybody to either the NFL or the portal. We’ve got Cooper Mays so even though we lost Carvin and Wright I actually think we could improve on the OL this year, mostly because according to Elarbee Carvin was playing hurt last year. Coop says we’re not there yet which I find encouraging. He knows where we need to get to and I trust him to get us there. jmo.




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