ACC teams are expected to leave.

[VOLnMiami]

Seems things are about to get even more insane...ACC Teams Expected to Leave Conference (msn.com)

 

[Sea Ray]

Seems things are about to get even more insane...ACC Teams Expected to Leave Conference (msn.com)

That doesn't leave much of the ACC. Who does Duke play after all that?

 

[Dudleys87]

I wouldn’t hesitate to take Duke if I were the SEC.

But they’ll go with Carolina or Carolina goes wherever they end up. The rivalry is to rich and the fans would riot in the streets.

 

[VolNExile]

Seems things are about to get even more insane...ACC Teams Expected to Leave Conference (msn.com)

How do Florida State and Clemson go to SEC? I thought Florida and SCjr were supposed to automatically veto those two. I don’t care really, although I do wish that we could eventually pick up an NC school.

 

[ArdentVol]

How do Florida State and Clemson go to SEC? I thought Florida and SCjr were supposed to automatically veto those two. I don’t care really, although I do wish that we could eventually pick up an NC school.

got to read more about this

 

[ENGRVOL]

Seems things are about to get even more insane...ACC Teams Expected to Leave Conference (msn.com)

North Carolina, Duke, and NC State all going to different conferences would be insane.

 

[bamawriter]

Of all the different possibilities, the SEC picking up FSU and Clemson is one of the more unlikely.

 

[volfanhill]

Not buying this

 

[SpookyAction]

The SEC taking Clemson and FSU makes zero tv market sense.
It gives the SEC zero leverage in TV dealmaking.
The SEC inviting NCState and one of the Virginia (VATech more than UVA) schools makes a whole lot of sense. NC is also a natural invitee, but I suspect they would be more attracted to the cultural fit of the B1G.
If the SEC can get NC or NCState, I don't see what Duke really offers.

 

[Dudleys87]

The SEC taking Clemson and FSU makes zero tv market sense.
It gives the SEC zero leverage in TV dealmaking.
The SEC inviting NCState and one of the Virginia (VATech more than UVA) schools makes a whole lot of sense. NC is also a natural invitee, but I suspect they would be more attracted to the cultural fit of the B1G.
If the SEC can get NC or NCState, I don't see what Duke really offers.

VTech
NC, Duke, State
Clemson
GT

Having Duke, Carolina, GT and Vandy gives the conference a strong academic angle which only helps. The SEC would essentially have a strong hold on TV marketing.

I don’t ever see Carolina, Duke, and State ever being in different conferences

 

[SpookyAction]

VTech
NC, Duke, State
Clemson
GT

Having Duke, Carolina, GT and Vandy gives the conference a strong academic angle which only helps. The SEC would essentially have a strong hold on TV marketing.

I don’t ever see Carolina, Duke, and State ever being in different conferences

Agreed on the NC schools. They make a more attractive trio.

I can't think of anyway Clemson brings value to the SEC in a billion dollar tv deal.
Or FSU either.
And the Uof Miami is a very weird fit in the B1G culturally.

My question is, how much does a strong academic angle help the SEC at this point, when the SEC is becoming a jr. NFL-type football conference?
We will never approach the academic clout of the B1G or PAC-12 regardless.
So is it a big deal?

 

[Buzzbait]

I want GT back in SEC; great traditional rival with TN and would just piss UGA off.

 

[Pennheel]

Not buying this

Neither am I. It is fun to speculate as a fan,but none of this sounds legit to me.

 

[dobre_shunka]

How do Florida State and Clemson go to SEC? I thought Florida and SCjr were supposed to automatically veto those two. I don’t care really, although I do wish that we could eventually pick up an NC school.

Ask A&M about that veto to keep out an instate rival.

 

[VOLnMiami]

That doesn't leave much of the ACC. Who does Duke play after all that?

I was wondering about that myself...Surely they don't get left out in the cold.

 

[VOLnMiami]

I personally would take the North Carolina schools and the Virginia schools over Clemson and FSU...It just makes more sense and they would be natural rivalries...Tennessee and UNC have a history going back to the early years, It would be fun to renew that rivalry.

 

[SpookyAction]

Ask A&M about that veto to keep out an instate rival.

Good point.
Big difference taking TX and OK over Clemson and FSU. Those first two programs bring lots of eyes to televisions.
We already have all the FL and SC markets factored into our TV megadeals. It would be FAR more important to add VA and NC television markets.

 

[hog88]

Seems things are about to get even more insane...ACC Teams Expected to Leave Conference (msn.com)

I wouldn’t put much faith in that source.

 

[VOLnMiami]

I wouldn’t put much faith in that source.

I'm not, just saw it this morning and figured everyone would like a hyped up reading experince for the day.

 

[DawgInterloper]

I want GT back in SEC; great traditional rival with TN and would just piss UGA off.

It wouldn't piss me off. At least if Tech was in the SEC it would count as a conference game and free up an OOC game every year for UGA. Otherwise, I'd rather drop GT from the schedule than keep them as one of only three annual OOC games starting 2024.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Sounds like fanfic.

 

[dobre_shunka]

Good point.
Big difference taking TX and OK over Clemson and FSU. Those first two programs bring lots of eyes to televisions.
We already have all the FL and SC markets factored into our TV megadeals. It would be FAR more important to add VA and NC television markets.

The NC and VA schools trail FSU and Clemson significantly in football TV viewership. Adding them wouldn't necessarily be bad but FSU and Clemson are where the real money is at.

 

[VAVol85]

That doesn't leave much of the ACC. Who does Duke play after all that?

Duke, Wake, BC, Syracuse and the Domers. Not much of a conference.

 

[VAVol85]

I was wondering about that myself...Surely they don't get left out in the cold.

I think this “news” is a leak designed to panic ACC members so that a few can be stolen by other conferences.

 

[SpookyAction]

The NC and VA schools trail FSU and Clemson significantly in football TV viewership. Adding them wouldn't necessarily be bad but FSU and Clemson are where the real money is at.

View attachment 546753

Good info.

I am not convinced the ACC's buyouts are at a level that can be paid by these schools. The buyout cost to leave the ACC is $52 million. That is also very close to a one year payout in the SEC TV revenue. ACC teams are getting @$35 million per year. That sounds good for a team joining the SEC.

Now the clincher for a school leaving the ACC is the Grant of Rights. FSU and Clemson have given the rights to control their television right to the ACC until 2036. The ACC teams have no ownership of their specific TV rights for 13 more years. The bull in the China shop is not really the B1G, but ESPN who owns the SEC and ACC Networks. If they are really the force behind conference expansion, the ACC will be forced to allow a deal to be made.

Is ESPN going to ruin its own ACC Network? The only way teams could leave the ACC with their tv rights is if ESPN makes the ACC cut a deal.