Gun control debate (merged)

[C-south]

The states with the strongest gun laws have no difference in homicide rates than those with the loosest gun laws. There’s no actual correlation between gun laws and homicide rates on a state level.

But since you want to virtue signal, tell us. What law would’ve prevented this?

Illegal to fire someone who owns a gun.

 

[kiddiedoc]

White
We’ve referenced the safest color car on the road. That color is white. White cars are 12 percent less likely to be involved in an accident than black cars at any time of the day under any conditions. This is because there is often a lot of contrast between white cars and its surroundings. As a result, white cars are easy to see.

Red Cars
Since visibility seems to be the driving factor when discussing car color and accident risk, you may think that red is a safe choice. While red does tend to be associated with less of a risk of accidents than black, grey, and silver cars, red cars have more accidents than many other colors.

You aren't answering my question. Why are there so many white cars involved in accidents, especially since they are so easy to see?

 

[DC_Vol]

So just to be clear you started the thread by pretending no one else cared because they don’t share your views on gun regulation and now when asked how to stop this, you’re admitting that you don’t have a damn clue?

That’s pretty pathetic to throw out that kind of virtue signal “look at me, the great one who cares” and then admit “o yeah, no I couldn’t have stopped this either”

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I thought he made his point well.

Lol. Of course you did.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

IMO, children being read to by drag queens is a parental decision and the government should have no part in it.

Want to ban trans reading to children? Sorry, ain't gonna happen.

What if the tax paying, school funding parents of the children object to said drag queen story hour?

 

[Vol8188]

Actual thing the shooter posted:

“They won’t listen to words or protests, let’s see if they hear this.”

Perhaps the left should reconsider some of their recent rhetoric? Let’s be honest though, they’ll just double down

 

[GroverCleveland]

See how quickly you think nothing can be gained from some very basic common sense laws? How about looking into how these laws have been crafted in states that have enacted them? Seems to me that that would be an excellent place to start. Sure beats throwing up your hands and saying that it's just all too hard.

What?

 

[C-south]

See how quickly you think nothing can be gained from some very basic common sense laws? How about looking into how these laws have been crafted in states that have enacted them? Seems to me that that would be an excellent place to start. Sure beats throwing up your hands and saying that it's just all too hard.

When the current laws fail us due to government incompetence then what will more laws do? Why can’t they enforce what we already have? Why are firearm offenses being downgraded for career criminals? Maybe we should just throw our hands up.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

You've got $20k and up to burn, go for it.
Let us know how long the wait is on your background check...

I can just move to a red state where background checks are forbidden. Gulp down some LSD or other psychotic drug and for on a shooting spree. Just so, the reds politicians and their red, red, robins can send prayers and condolences to the victims.

 

[LouderVol]

Do you know why there are so many white cars involved in accidents?

because they are racist!

I mean because they are dangerous weapons of war clearly designed to achieve speeds that kill humans. I bet they can even drive twice as fast as the posted speed limit, who needs that kind of power? How bad of a driver do you have to be to need to go that fast? The car lobby is totally against background checks and reasonable car control. We should ban assault Monster Trucks, because anything over X or Y, but don't expect me to define X or Y, or stick to any definition. its a shame you can legally run people over on the road.

 

[Vol8188]

I can just move to a red state where background checks are forbidden. Gulp down some LSD or other psychotic drug and for on a shooting spree. Just so, the reds politicians and their red, red, robins can send prayers and condolences to the victims.

Based on the number of left wing shootings we’ve had recently and this guys obvious lack of mental stability, is it fair to assume he’s laying out his plan 4chan style?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I have never heard a single person deny that there is a people problem.

EVERYBODY KNOWS AND ACKNOWLEDGES THAT!!!!!!!!!!

There is also a gun problem.

ALMOST EVERYBODY KNOWS AND ACKNOWLEDGES THAT!!!!!!!!!! (except for the gun nuts)

Just checked. My guns still haven't killed anybody. Not a problem

 

[C-south]

I can just move to a red state where background checks are forbidden. Gulp down some LSD or other psychotic drug and for on a shooting spree. Just so, the reds politicians and their red, red, robins can send prayers and condolences to the victims.

Which states specifically forbid background checks?

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I would vote for that too. and I would vote for holding them responsible for any action they took with that equipment, even though that isn't part of the narrative you have created for me.
I have always said I would be willing to accept the same limitations on civilian purchase of weapons as we do on non-DOD, a very inclusive list, government agencies. if my local police force can have a tank, I can have a tank. If they CAN'T have tear gas, it makes sense that I can't have tear gas. If the IRS can have fully automatic weapons, I can have fully automatic weapons. if the Department of Homeland Security can have drones spying on me, I can have drones keeping an eye on my garden to drop grenades on the squirrels eating my tomatoes. the vaguest and lightest standard the government is held to should be the starting point of rational and reasonable limitations on the civilians they are supposedly serving.

Don't for get the baby nuke to use on the annoying neighbor or far right Karen who thinks you are David Berkowitz your dog is a son-of-Sam descent. Thems more dangerous than squirrels, you know.

 

[Grand Vol]

Which states specifically forbid background checks?

All of them according to liberals.

 

[evillawyer]

2nd Amendment just completely dominant of late. Like the UCLA basketball teams of the 1960s. Big wins for freedom (can I get a "USA! USA! USA!"), and just what the founders had in mind.

 

[Vol8188]

2nd Amendment just completely dominant of late. Like the UCLA basketball teams of the 1960s. Big wins for freedom (can I get a "USA! USA! USA!"), and just what the founders had in mind.

You act like this is uncommon in DC. The majority of all homicides in America are committed by black men. The majority of all mass shootings. The plurality of all childhood victims of gun crime 46% are black.

There’s a problem, 100%. But it’s not the second amendment. Black Americans live in places with stronger gun laws, are more likely to be arrested and charged under gun laws, own less guns than white Americans, and are legally more likely to already be barred from owning a gun due to increased felony rates.

But you refuse to acknowledge any of that

 

[C-south]

2nd Amendment just completely dominant of late. Like the UCLA basketball teams of the 1960s. Big wins for freedom (can I get a "USA! USA! USA!"), and just what the founders had in mind.

In a crime watch areas at that. Bet it’s a gun free zone as well. It’s in DC and there’s photos for context. Who would have guessed? Doesn’t DC have some of the strictest gun laws?

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Which states specifically forbid background checks?

The ones that ignore and otherwise circumvent federal law requiring background checks. But you knew that, didn't you? You just want a reply you can denigrate, and nothing more.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Based on the number of left wing shootings we’ve had recently and this guys obvious lack of mental stability, is it fair to assume he’s laying out his plan 4chan style?

SHHHH! I'm a closet right-winger.

 

[C-south]

The ones that ignore and otherwise circumvent federal law requiring background checks. But you knew that, didn't you? You just want a reply you can denigrate, and nothing more.

Lol. So what you said before and what you’re saying now is simply bs. Got it.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Lol. So what you said before and what you’re saying now is simply bs. Got it.

Here you. Have fun. Careful where you step.
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[utvolpj]

The ones that ignore and otherwise circumvent federal law requiring background checks. But you knew that, didn't you? You just want a reply you can denigrate, and nothing more.

Which states are those? Can you list them? I don't know of any state that ignores federal law for firearms but it seems you do. That list will actually be a good contribution to the thread

 

[LouderVol]

I can just move to a red state where background checks are forbidden. Gulp down some LSD or other psychotic drug and for on a shooting spree. Just so, the reds politicians and their red, red, robins can send prayers and condolences to the victims.

Can you tell me which states have forbidden back ground checks?

 

[LouderVol]

Don't for get the baby nuke to use on the annoying neighbor or far right Karen who thinks you are David Berkowitz your dog is a son-of-Sam descent. Thems more dangerous than squirrels, you know.

if it can be used without harming others I am for it. If it is used in a manner that hurts people I am against it. and I keep that stance for any object. I don't pick and choose because I am told to be scared.