The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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luthervol said:
He didn't believe he won by 500,000, he didn't believe he had votes shredded....he was throwing out sh!t while threatening Raffensperger to rig the count in his favor.
That's the message Raffensperger (a die hard conservative who did not like Biden) clearly received. We'll let a jury sort it out.
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What was the threat exactly? If you’re going to accuse someone of criminal conduct you should have a better case than this. What was the threat?
 
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hog88 said:
How boring your life must be.
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That's the best you can do? LOL.

That's how a person handles losing a debate, right there.

Well, I was at the Four Seasons at Mandalay Bay in Vegas for March Madness ... Watched Tennessee beat Duke at The House of Blues near the Mandalay Bay Sportsbook ... So, that was at least one pretty fun week. LOL.

As for right now? You are on an internet message board forum responding to my posts ... So, I guess both of our lives are boring at the moment.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I have looked at the full conversation and I have listened to the full conversation. I have even made the full audio of the call available to this forum in post # 4,000 of this thread. You don't have to tell me what is said on the call. I have listened to it, in it's entirety multiple times now ... and I have also read the complete transcript of it.

Trump didn't want to add an unspecified number of votes to his total. He wanted to add 11,780. Why that specific number? Did Trump know exactly how many fraudulent votes had been committed? No ... that was the magic number, because as Trump even admits, he knew that was what he needed to win. This call had nothing to do with fraud. It's purpose was to overturn the outcome of Trump's own defeat in the state of Georgia.
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He was telling him he had far more than that but at a minimum he should find that many.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
These idiots are not going to win this argument with me ... I know damn well what is on that full, completely unedited phone call. I have listened to in full multiple times.
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They know they are wrong. They're simply trying to convince themselves that there will be enough ambiguity to fool a jury.

There will not be.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That's the best you can do? LOL.

That's how a person handles losing a debate, right there.

Well, I was at the Four Seasons at Mandalay Bay in Vegas for March Madness ... Watched Tennessee beat Duke at The House of Blues near the Mandalay Bay Sportsbook ... So, that was at least one pretty fun week. LOL.

As for right now? You are on an internet message board forum responding to my posts ... So, I guess both of our lives are boring at the moment.
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My life has never been boring enough to listen to an hour+ long phone call let alone listen to it multiple times. Plus I'm at the office, I don't have anything better to do and I'm only stealing from myself.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Telling someone if a crime has occurred they have to report it? That’s a threat?
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Read the first 3 sentences. Carefully, slowly. Hell, transcribe them here and we'll go through it sentence by sentence.

edit: It's more like the first 5 sentences.
 
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Issue arose in another thread, but I will post the comment here as well:

If there is a trial, I think Trump will not take the stand because he will have to answer, under oath, whether had an affair with Daniels. Maybe about other stuff, too.

Bad juju for him.
 
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hog88 said:
My life has never been boring enough to listen to an hour+ long phone call let alone listen to it multiple times. Plus I'm at the office, I don't have anything better to do and I'm only stealing from myself.
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Sorry ... didn't realize you were so important.

I walked my dog earlier.

At this moment, I'm just chilling in my living room in Knoxville ... in my favorite pair of boxer shorts ... drinking Crown and Coke and posting messages on VolNation that an important person is responding to.
 
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The loony "we didn't do nuthin" left-wing propaganda machine for the Demorats strike again.
Why they so scared of one man? Will he reveal their hypocrisy for all the world to see?

 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Sorry ... didn't realize you were so important.

I walked my dog earlier.

At this moment, I'm just chilling in my living room ... in my favorite pair of boxer shorts ... drinking Crown and Coke and posting messages that an important person is responding to.
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Probably why you are not an important person.

And no I'm not an important person. Just paid my dues.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Then that serves as an admission that the whole point of the call was not to address fraud ... but to help Trump win.
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Seems like it was both. By addressing fraud trump thought it would show he had won. At no point does he ask him to make up votes or forge votes or anything even remotely illegal. Just to find the ballots he claims were destroyed.

What’s the problem
 
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luthervol said:
Read the first 3 sentences. Carefully, slowly. Hell, transcribe them here and we'll go through it sentence by sentence.

edit: It's more like the first 5 sentences.
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I’ve posted them 3 times now. Go ahead. What’s the “threat”
 

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luthervol said:
I'll repost my earlier answer.
Hell, the whole PF is people voicing their differing opinions and supporting why they think theirs is the better one.
(Outside of the echo chamber confirmations of "yea, we're of the same opinion so it must be right"; which now that I think of it may make up 85% of the posts - 99.9% if you take out the posts from a handful of non-conservatives)
so I guess, you're welcome for the much needed diversity of thought.
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True but I’m not trying to “wash away the stain” of how you view things. How you think about something is up to you. I accept you and I have different views and, if the chips were down and you and I had to run this country, I’m sure we could find a way to make it work. The way you’re coming across is that my thinking is broken and must be eradicated.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Seems like it was both. By addressing fraud trump thought it would show he had won. At no point does he ask him to make up votes or forge votes or anything even remotely illegal. Just to find the ballots he claims were destroyed.

What’s the problem
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Trump was talking the way Gotti would talk on his wire taps. He was careful to be imprecise. Trump knew better than to give Raffensperger specific demands of what to do.

It was :

"I need you to find ___ "

instead of ....

"I need you to produce ___ "
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I have read the full transcript of the call ... and Trump is pressuring Brad Raffensperger into helping him overturn the outcome of his own election defeat.

In fact, that was the whole point of Trump making that call in the first place. If Trump had won the state of Georgia, no such call is ever made.
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I agree with the last part. He was pressuring Raff to investigate. Trump never said he wanted anything fraudulent to occur. Pushing for an investigation is not a crime.
 
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