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luthervol said:
Just to recap:
I made a simple claim (bolded above) that I gladly stand by.
The flying down the rabbit hole was done by a bunch of nuts taking exception with my statement.
I merely stood above the rabbit hole trying to get others to climb back out.

But it's pretty much the same story repeated over and over.
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3 legged stool

- Unique Situation
- Medical Professional
- Parent & Child

Who will be defining what meets the criteria of “unique situation”?
 
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85SugarVol said:
3 legged stool

- Unique Situation
- Medical Professional
- Parent & Child

Who will be defining what meets the criteria of “unique situation”?
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I blame medical professionals in this respect as well. There’s a saying in surgery that “the existence of a surgical procedure isn’t an indication for its use.” So, just because a surgical mastectomy can be performed doesn’t mean it’s indicated in a 15yo girl who identifies as a boy. In the same way, gastric bypass/weight loss surgery should not be indicated in a 15yo who thinks she’s obese.
 
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newyorkvol said:
Read you own post, the bolded nonetheless, and try again.
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No need. The point is obvious, there are benefits beyond weight loss. I don't know what all of those benefits may or may not be. I'm just saying it would be stupid to make it illegal for anyone who is not fat to have the surgery.
I see another rabbit hole someone is attempting to get me to chase them down.
 
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85SugarVol said:
3 legged stool

- Unique Situation
- Medical Professional
- Parent & Child

Who will be defining what meets the criteria of “unique situation”?
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The reasonable people from both sides of the aisle who bring in experts from all sides. You know.....the way it is supposed to work.

After all, there is really no viable alternative.
 
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luthervol said:
No need. The point is obvious, there are benefits beyond weight loss. I don't know what all of those benefits may or may not be. I'm just saying it would be stupid to make it illegal for anyone who is not fat to have the surgery.
I see another rabbit hole someone is attempting to get me to chase them down.
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You ever consider that you’re in the rabbit hole and others are trying to lead you out? Probably not….
 
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kiddiedoc said:
This is one of the most ridiculous discussions I've ever seen on this forum. What Luther is claiming isn't even remotely what is being pushed by the "progressive" lawmakers and medical professionals. I'm sure he knows that, though.

Ambiguous genitalia and sex chromosomal defects are extremely uncommon and are already handled with surgery, when indicated. This agenda literally has NOTHING to do with that.

But carry on.
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I've wanted to post the same thing for 2 days now. I was thinking maybe they should start a different thread. Lol
 
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luthervol said:
They will certainly have input, as they obviously should. I can't really grasp what it is specifically that you're struggling to grasp.
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It will be the medical professionals that define unique situation - so that’s 1 of 3 legs removed.

All we have left now is:

- Medical Professional
- Parent & Child
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Not at all what is involved here, but keep spouting your nonsense.
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Sure, it is most certainly part of the conversation. I know those of you who can only deal in absolutes are having difficulty, but keep trying to work your way through it.
My oft stated position: I could easily compromise on a bill making certain surgeries illegal for anyone under the age of 18, as long as there are provisions for the extraordinary situations. I believe most every dem and repub would agree.

You guys feel free to state your position, unless that is somehow difficult.
 
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