U.S. citizens kidnapped in Mexico

[sonofUT62]

Retaliation, revenge or whatever you want to call it is in order.

The cartels are better armed and funded than the Somalian militias that killed 18 highly trained Rangers and D Force. You think Biden is going to send a SEAL team to get slaughtered and start an international incident? The response is the Cartel shoots up malls and elementary schools in retaliation. This has already been gamed out.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

What are we going to do? Invade Mexico?

It would be the Afghanistan model, so why not? Obama armed them just like we armed the Mujahedeen.

I figured you would be down for that.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Oh goodie...

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I just assumed if we can run a missle up Isis ass and infiltrate a cave over 1000 miles away that maybe we can handle a cartel 100 miles away from the border..

And how has all that missile launching worked out in the ME for us?

 

[Vol423]

Sure. We could easily take out a cartel. What would that change?

Would it change the demand forecast?
Would it change the profit margins?

Would another cartel answer those questions and fill the void?

Actually, it would change the profit margins.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Idk but countries feel they can just snatch our citizens with out consequences....so what do you suggest we do?

We need to save face.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

What does that even mean?

Yeah that went over my head, also. WTF?

 

[whodeycin85]

So why focus on her? We couldn't even compile a list of all the people that get special treatment by the government, there are so many. Why are you still losing your **** about her months after the fact? I've got a pretty good guess.

Please enlighten me?

 

[85SugarVol]

Mexico Travel Advisory

Country Summary: Violent crime – such as homicide, kidnapping, carjacking, and robbery – is widespread and common in Mexico. The U.S. government has limited ability to provide emergency services to U.S. citizens in many areas of Mexico, as travel by U.S. government employees to certain areas is prohibited or restricted. In many states, local emergency services are limited outside the state capital or major cities.

It then goes on to call out a few Mexican States specifically-

Do Not Travel To:

• Colima state due to crime and kidnapping.
• Guerrero state due to crime.
• Michoacan state due to crime and kidnapping.
• Sinaloa state due to crime and kidnapping
• Tamaulipas state due to crime and kidnapping.
• Zacatecas state due to crime and kidnapping.

Seems our Government was very clear on what it thought of US Citizens traveling there.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Actually, it would change the profit margins.

How??

 

[85SugarVol]

Actually, it would change the profit margins.

Maybe. But it wouldn’t change the value proposition.

There would be war to seize those profits.

 

[theFallGuy]

I know this may be harsh but I really have no sympathy for people who willingly travel to dangerous hot spots and get in trouble. The US government shouldn't have to bail you out of trouble for making idiotic life choices.

All of this to get a "tummy tuck". Lord

 

[sonofUT62]

All of this to get a "tummy tuck". Lord

You just can’t get the same quality of Donkey Show in El Norte.

 

[Vol423]

How??

I'm not advocating for this, but if the U.S. took out one or more cartels, the profit margins of the drug trade would absolutely change. Confiscation of the drugs by the U.S. would result in increased costs (inventory purchased but not sold), thereby lowering profit margins.

 

[LouderVol]

I'm not advocating for this, but if the U.S. took out one or more cartels, the profit margins of the drug trade would absolutely change. Confiscation of the drugs by the U.S. would result in increased costs (inventory purchased but not sold), thereby lowering profit margins.

except they would then be able to charge more. You would hurt a couple cartels, but empower others that would fill the void.

 

[Vol423]

except they would then be able to charge more. You would hurt a couple cartels, but empower others that would fill the void.

...and yet, gross margins would still be impacted. Look, I never said that I advocate for this, and I never said that the drug trade would go away. The margins would most definitely be impacted though. Politicians don't have the desire, willpower or tenacity to end the drug trade.

 

[sonofUT62]

I'm not advocating for this, but if the U.S. took out one or more cartels, the profit margins of the drug trade would absolutely change. Confiscation of the drugs by the U.S. would result in increased costs (inventory purchased but not sold), thereby lowering profit margins.

I hope we make sure that whichever cartel our one hand destroys, is not the one that the other is arming and funding. That would be super embarrassing.

 

[Orangeburst]

The drugs of our youth are not the drugs of today. This stuff is melting America. Time for Blackjack
And the CCP has factories making the stuff and we know where they are.

https://cen.acs.org/environment/water/opioids-down-drain-scientists-tracking/97/i16

 

[Vol423]

I hope we make sure that whichever cartel our one hand destroys, is not the one that the other is arming and funding. That would be super embarrassing.

There is no chance in hell Biden is going to do anything of the kind.

 

[85SugarVol]

I'm not advocating for this, but if the U.S. took out one or more cartels, the profit margins of the drug trade would absolutely change. Confiscation of the drugs by the U.S. would result in increased costs (inventory purchased but not sold), thereby lowering profit margins.

We already routinely confiscate millions of dollars worth at the border. Check out the CBP seizure numbers - big numbers.

Hasn’t slowed the flow one bit.

 

[sonofUT62]

There is no chance in hell Biden is going to do anything of the kind.

Someone will probably have to remind him which Cartel he armed when he was VP. Maybe the receipts are in the garage next to the Vette.

 

[Vol423]

We already routinely confiscate millions of dollars worth at the border. Check out the CBP seizure numbers - big numbers.

Hasn’t slowed the flow one bit.

That's because this is a half-a$$ed approach. Drug confiscations at the border are a cost of business that has already been baked-in to the numbers. As I said before, politicians don't have the desire, willpower or tenacity to end the drug trade.

 

[BreatheUT]

This dude always want to go to war with somebody, but I do think we need to wipe the cartels off the face of the earth. It doesn't help that we let them take over our southern border.

 

[ETV]

It's whack-a-mole, take one cartel or it's leader down another pops up, we can't kill or imprison our way to a fix.

Win by attrition. Implementation of the same tactics the cartels have used on others. This will get their attention and if they’re the least bit intelligent, take their small piece of the trade that’s left and accept it.

Unfortunately this is a pipe dream though, as this requires cooperation between both US and Mexican governments, in addition to sustained incursions without consent from the Mexican authorities.

 

[sonofUT62]

We already routinely confiscate millions of dollars worth at the border. Check out the CBP seizure numbers - big numbers.

Hasn’t slowed the flow one bit.

THIS! When you sell a product for 20x the cost of production you can get 50% of it seized and still get rich. Legalize it and it won’t be worth the gas to drive it here.