2024 Schedule- When will we know?

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vols 30 said:
If there is a 12 team playoff, what is the purpose of a conference championship game? Both of those teams would more than likely be in the playoff anyway
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The top 4 teams will get a bye week during the first round.

The second 4 will host the bottom 4 at their home stadium in the first round.

The top 4 teams will also get to select the location of their game in the second round from the bowls participating in the CFP that season.
 
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ptcarter said:
Certainly the decision has already been made. I haven't been following, but I am anxious to know how all this will fall out. Pods, Divisions, Rivalries etc. As a season ticket holder, I personally like the pod thing where there is a lot of variety over the course of 3 or 4 seasons to see teams we rarely see in Neyland. (I'd also like to see a home and away with Ohio State, but that's just me being greedy).
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Not sure 23 schedule will be released but Sankey wants to release details on perm 3 by Destin meetings. should also release details on how the 6 rotation will work. Might not have specific 24 dates and locations at that time.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
It will be the 3/6/6 model almost certainly. The other possibility is 1/7/7. There will be no pods, no divisions. Everything depends on whether they will go to the 9 game in conference schedule or stick with 8. They will go to 9 though because it will be more money. This is a model of how the 3/6/6 schedule could look, you alternate every other year playing your 6 rotating teams. So there are only two kinds of conference opponents: the 3 you play every year, and the 12 you play every other year (rotate 6 and 6).
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Schedule resembles a Keno board. Yikes! :eek:
 
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vols 30 said:
If there is a 12 team playoff, what is the purpose of a conference championship game? Both of those teams would more than likely be in the playoff anyway
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So you don't see the conference championship as important, in its own right, I take it.

I do. In fact, I think it has more value and cache than getting into the playoffs. Note I said getting in, not winning.

Chronologically, the conference CG will come first, then they'll announce the 12 playoff teams, then one will be crowned national champ.

But in order of significance, I think you flip the first two.

Twelve teams can get into the playoffs...and that may include three, four, even five SEC teams. But only one SEC team can win the conference.

As the playoffs expand, more and more fan bases are going to end the year with the disappointment of a loss. Twelve-team playoff? That's one champ, and 11 also-rans. Some might say 11 losers, though I think that's a bit harsh.

You don't (and shouldn't) get a trophy for coming in second in the playoffs. Nor second in the SEC.

So yeah, I think winning the conference has value in its own right.

That's the purpose.

Plus money, lol.

Go Vols!
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
So you don't see the conference championship as important, in its own right, I take it.

I do. In fact, I think it has more value and cache than getting into the playoffs. Note I said getting in, not winning.

Chronologically, the conference CG will come first, then they'll announce the 12 playoff teams, then one will be crowned national champ.

But in order of significance, I think you flip the first two.

Twelve teams can get into the playoffs...and that may include three, four, even five SEC teams. But only one SEC team can win the conference.

As the playoffs expand, more and more fan bases are going to end the year with the disappointment of a loss. Twelve-team playoff? That's one champ, and 11 also-rans. Some might say 11 losers, though I think that's a bit harsh.

You don't (and shouldn't) get a trophy for coming in second in the playoffs. Nor second in the SEC.

So yeah, I think winning the conference has value in its own right.

That's the purpose.

Plus money, lol.

Go Vols!
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Also, in the 12 team playoff the SEC championship will almost certainly guarantee a first round bye since the top 4 conference champions are getting the byes.
 
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Tennessee got screwed.

There really should be no limit to depth if this schedule is the direction they want to go. It’s going to be brutal and the SEC will be beat up come championship/playoff time.
 
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Vfl2407 said:
I’d make one change.
Have Ark and UF swap out OU and LSU.
Otherwise, I think you are spot on.
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You are likely correct. It would be to our benefit if Florida didn’t have annual access to Louisiana’s recruiting base however.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
Tennessee got screwed.

There really should be no limit to depth if this schedule is the direction they want to go. It’s going to be brutal and the SEC will be beat up come championship/playoff time.
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I don't think UT is getting screwed anymore than anyone else, but you are right there is nowhere to run from a tough schedule on either the 3/6/6 or the 1/7/7 in the SEC. It's going to be brutal, for everyone.
 
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Whatever decision they go with you would have to think they will have an eye for the next round of expansion. The previous rumors of Clemson, Florida State, UNC and Virginia last year were testing the waters. Four 5 team pods actually preserve some rivalries. Florida doesn’t want FSU, South Carolina doesn’t want Clemson however. After Notre Dame, UNC is probably the most important university that will have to make a decision someday.

UT playing Alabama, Vandy, Kentucky, and UNC, every year could be a possibility. Good or bad, but money is driving it all. I think three 20 team leagues with SEC, Big 10 and some sort of merger between PAC/Big 12 is likely. Each league would get 3 to 5 teams in the playoffs and tell the NCAA to take a hike.
 
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Conference is not going to 9 games. The 1-7-7 model is what the Conference will go with.

The Goal is to get more teams into the playoff and keep a decent ooc schedule.

You go to a 3-6-6 you almost guarantee that Georgia will drop tech. Carolina will drop Clemson. Florida will drop Florida State.
 
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Vol_guy said:
Conference is not going to 9 games. The 1-7-7 model is what the Conference will go with.

The Goal is to get more teams into the playoff and keep a decent ooc schedule.

You go to a 3-6-6 you almost guarantee that Georgia will drop tech. Carolina will drop Clemson. Florida will drop Florida State.
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Boo hoo for them. Those teams are probably joining the SEC in the next decade, anyway.
 
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This is the best video I’ve seen so far on how everything probably shakes up. I think the thing to remember is that everyone plays everyone else bi-annually, so while a couple schools will inevitably get “screwed” with having tougher permanent opponents, it will probably be a moot point because everyone will have a tough schedule regardless.

 
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ptcarter said:
Certainly the decision has already been made. I haven't been following, but I am anxious to know how all this will fall out. Pods, Divisions, Rivalries etc. As a season ticket holder, I personally like the pod thing where there is a lot of variety over the course of 3 or 4 seasons to see teams we rarely see in Neyland. (I'd also like to see a home and away with Ohio State, but that's just me being greedy).
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According to Sankey,nothing has been decided. He said he gets new idea's daily and combs through them. Most likely just i division, but nothing is set in stone.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
So you don't see the conference championship as important, in its own right, I take it.

I do. In fact, I think it has more value and cache than getting into the playoffs. Note I said getting in, not winning.

Chronologically, the conference CG will come first, then they'll announce the 12 playoff teams, then one will be crowned national champ.

But in order of significance, I think you flip the first two.

Twelve teams can get into the playoffs...and that may include three, four, even five SEC teams. But only one SEC team can win the conference.

As the playoffs expand, more and more fan bases are going to end the year with the disappointment of a loss. Twelve-team playoff? That's one champ, and 11 also-rans. Some might say 11 losers, though I think that's a bit harsh.

You don't (and shouldn't) get a trophy for coming in second in the playoffs. Nor second in the SEC.

So yeah, I think winning the conference has value in its own right.

That's the purpose.

Plus money, lol.

Go Vols!
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I agree about the Championship Game, but with the new playoff format the Championship Game seems like little more than an opportunity to get players injured going into the playoffs. The SEC meatgrinder is getting extreme for our teams.

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Whatever decision they go with you would have to think they will have an eye for the next round of expansion. The previous rumors of Clemson, Florida State, UNC and Virginia last year were testing the waters. Four 5 team pods actually preserve some rivalries. Florida doesn’t want FSU, South Carolina doesn’t want Clemson however. After Notre Dame, UNC is probably the most important university that will have to make a decision someday.

UT playing Alabama, Vandy, Kentucky, and UNC, every year could be a possibility. Good or bad, but money is driving it all. I think three 20 team leagues with SEC, Big 10 and some sort of merger between PAC/Big 12 is likely. Each league would get 3 to 5 teams in the playoffs and tell the NCAA to take a hike.
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I dread the next SEC expansion. The present expansion with Tx and OU strengthen the brand and will enable schedules with us playing teams we rarely see. I think it so amazing this possible schedule is opening the entire conference to play each other regularly. It will feel like a very unified conference.

The present Divisions practically make the East and West two separate conference with a little overlap.

If ACC teams expand the Conference in the future, the new pods or divisions might close the schedule again and fans won't be going to more conference stadiums and watching our VOLS regularly playing LSU, OU, Tx, Arky, the Mississippis, and Auburn. I am incredibly excited to play new teams on the Reg. It will make the SEC seem so cohesive.

One thing playing these tougher (and exciting) schedules, starting in 24, will change is UK having these 7-8 win seasons and making them feel like they are contenders. These schedules will be tough on the good second tier teams that can eke out winning seasons most years. Ole Miss, Miss St, Arky, UK, and USCe are going to have win/loss records that will be different from recent successes. UT seems to be trending back to the Top tier. UF is in flux. I don't know if they are Top tier or not going forward. Mizzou and Vandy aren't going to notice much difference except those occasional nice seasons will be tougher and tougher to achieve.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
I don't think UT is getting screwed anymore than anyone else, but you are right there is nowhere to run from a tough schedule on either the 3/6/6 or the 1/7/7 in the SEC. It's going to be brutal, for everyone.
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It’ll be tough for anyone in the SEC to win a championship
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
So you don't see the conference championship as important, in its own right, I take it.

I do. In fact, I think it has more value and cache than getting into the playoffs. Note I said getting in, not winning.

Chronologically, the conference CG will come first, then they'll announce the 12 playoff teams, then one will be crowned national champ.

But in order of significance, I think you flip the first two.

Twelve teams can get into the playoffs...and that may include three, four, even five SEC teams. But only one SEC team can win the conference.

As the playoffs expand, more and more fan bases are going to end the year with the disappointment of a loss. Twelve-team playoff? That's one champ, and 11 also-rans. Some might say 11 losers, though I think that's a bit harsh.

You don't (and shouldn't) get a trophy for coming in second in the playoffs. Nor second in the SEC.

So yeah, I think winning the conference has value in its own right.

That's the purpose.

Plus money, lol.

Go Vols!
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Winning SECCG gives you first round bye also. Very important.
 
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I was once a tech writer. I was in a class of "minimalism" given to produce efficiency in writing, along with my co-worker, (let's just call him Tony). That class, plus a book I gave him called "junk English" and opened Pandora's box with Tony. When he spots an inefficiency, he texts me. For example, the news man says "it happened at 4:00 am in the morning", or it was an "unexpected surprise". And in football it kills him when someone says "The kick was partially blocked" (it either was or wasn't). Another one - "The play is under further review", means they are reviewing it for a second time. Also, when the ref says "This is their 2nd time out of the half" - you can't carry them over so why bother with the half thing. There are so many more. Illegal block in the back. Is there a legal block in the back? Threw a perfect strike, it was totally destroyed, had a noticeable limp, (I'm just going back through my text messages from him now), They had a pick 6 on defense.

The funniest one was that we were watching the same game and the announcer said "The quarterback made a decisive decision to run the ball". We texted each other simultaneously!

Anyway, he's a Bama fan and we were talking about this topic at lunch the other day. I told him it would most likely end up having 1 division. OMG - he laughed. No such thing. Here's what the definition of division is: the action of separating something into parts or the process of being separated . Not railing on anyone in particular here, but Tony had a lot of fun with me calling it a single division.
 
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