War in Ukraine

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volgr said:
What are the chances Europe ditches the Euro for the Dollar?
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Everyone is already using US Dollars, its a shell game... reserve currency. I would assume if the Euro Zone collapses that they would go back to their own shell local currency. I do wonder at that point whether the system can exist with a collapsing Europe. ???
 
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JuicyBrucey said:
I was already aware of it. But he's still a United States Marine with lots of experience and credibility because he was one of the very few Americans who said WMDs in Iraq were bogus and airpower alone couldn't achieve victory in Iraq. Everyone ridiculed him for it, especially Joe Biden, famously a pedo himself, but he's the pedo you support. Now we know Ritter was right about that and Biden was wrong, but it's too late. The Americans who died in Iraq aren't coming back. But here the USA is with a similar set of circumstances and it's In Biden We Trust part 2.
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He has zero credibility. He’s been continually wrong on Russia because he’s bought and paid for by the Russians.

And there’s the Biden supporter claim I knew was coming @apevol ! 😂 Hey Cletus you’re the one being forced to compare your “credible analyst” with a career grifter with mush for brains. They’re both pieces of ****.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
He has zero credibility. He’s been continually wrong on Russia because he’s bought and paid for by the Russians.

And there’s the Biden supporter claim I knew was coming @apevol ! 😂 Hey Cletus you’re the one being forced to compare your “credible analyst” with a career grifter with mush for brains. They’re both pieces of ****.
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NorthDallas40 said:
He has zero credibility. He’s been continually wrong on Russia because he’s bought and paid for by the Russians.

And there’s the Biden supporter claim I knew was coming @apevol ! 😂 Hey Cletus you’re the one being forced to compare your “credible analyst” with a career grifter with mush for brains. They’re both pieces of ****.
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You've supported Biden throughout the War in Ukraine thread. He's your pedo!
 
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utvolpj said:
Don't send that stuff over there. China will get just one and copy it in a month
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Handheld variants used to knock down small drones have been around for years. It’s just a larger mechanized version with a larger power source integrated into the vehicle. There is no ground breaking technology there.
 
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volgr said:
Again, take note that they dont debate where Ritter's analysis is wrong but lazily attack his character flaws. They are trolls. Ignore them and they go away.
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Yeah, the fact that they back Biden's policies in Ukraine when Biden's a pedo shows that Ritter being a pedo isn't the real reason they don't like what he has to say about the war in Ukraine. Plus, Apevol is a fan of Elvis Presley and NorthDallas40 supports Ted Nugent when Elvis and Nugent were/are pedos.
 
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JuicyBrucey said:
Yeah, the fact that they back Biden's policies in Ukraine when Biden's a pedo shows that Ritter being a pedo isn't the real reason they don't like what he has to say about the war in Ukraine. Plus, Apevol is a fan of Elvis Presley and NorthDallas40 supports Ted Nugent when Elvis and Nugent were/are pedos.
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keep digging that hole
 
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LSU-SIU said:
The United States is by far the biggest problem on the world stage from everything to do with invasions, bombing, torture, puppet regimes, funding terror groups, and even using the global credit market to crush everyone in their path.... even their supposed "friends". You are trying way too hard on this, nobody ever said other countries don't do things that might be improper. As soon as Europe figures out the problem than its going to be most of the world against the United States.

You need to look in the mirror and really be honest, I did, its not a pretty picture.
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When did I say we were shining examples for the world? I even said we taught China the new way.

It's still a voluntary engagement. Dont like the terms, find someone else.

The US wont fall until a new power rises. And the rest of the world does not like Chinese or Russian contenders. Until their is a viable replacement for our system or economy the world is stuck with us or a lot of turmoil. And we are definitely the preffered option in that choice.
 
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LouderVol said:
We are free to set terms for our trade. Other nations are free to accept those terms or not.
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Exactly. The Ukraine accepted terms and its up to THEM.

Economic pressure is not military pressure as its voluntary.
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True to a degree until everyone is mad at you and you start bombing pipelines. LoL In the end what does it matter if someone is excluding people from the global credit market... starvation is a thing.

It's the diplomatic option you guys keep claiming to want, but ignore when we do it, decrying its evil. And it's certainly not annexation.
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I'm not really wanting anything. LoL Its annexation by a different means i.e. puppet regimes and economic starvation.

You are upset we get into an arm wrestling contest with a nation over economic matters and win, we are the world's largest economy btw
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No, you the United States is the biggest bank, you live well because of that.

and it's not even close, so there doesnt need to be anything more nefarious than being the 800lb gorilla with all the money. They want our money, so that have to meet our demands.
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They don't want your "money", the current system doesn't even use money it uses credit. The world setup the United States as the reserve currency, what we are witnessing is the world starting to realize that is a bad thing.

But you are willing to give Russia a free pass for beating the snot out of Ukraine for partaking in that free economic exchange.
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Nobody is giving Russia a free pass or any such thing. I do realize why they went in, its what the United States really wanted.

And dont consider holding a gun to their head coercion because we are willing to throw dollar bills around.
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The world probably thinks differently at this point.


We practice relatively free trade through dollars, Russia deals in enslavement through their military. They arent anywhere close to the same.
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Its not free trade. LoL That is what all the sanctions and the all the threats of sanctions against those that don't listen is about. You have some strange definition for things. Now free trade is not so much free at all. LoL That is what the world is tired of.

What you are talking about is the same stuff, the United States inferring with other countries affairs. You can call it anything you want.
 
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Bad if true. Anybody?


Elon Musk Spoke to Putin Before Tweeting Ukraine Peace Plan: Report

The world’s richest man spoke directly with Vladimir Putin, Eurasia Group’s Ian Bremmer wrote.
https://www.vice.com/en/contributor/matthew-champion

Elon Musk spoke directly with Russian President Vladimir Putin before tweeting a proposal to end the war in Ukraine that would have seen territory permanently ceded to Russia, it has been claimed.
In a mailout sent to Eurasia Group subscribers, Ian Bremmer wrote that Tesla CEO Musk told him that Putin was “prepared to negotiate,” but only if Crimea remained Russian, if Ukraine accepted a form of permanent neutrality, and Ukraine recognised Russia’s annexation of Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia.
 
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LouderVol said:
It's still a voluntary engagement. Dont like the terms, find someone else.

The US wont fall until a new power rises. And the rest of the world does not like Chinese or Russian contenders. Until their is a viable replacement for our system or economy the world is stuck with us or a lot of turmoil. And we are definitely the preffered option in that choice.
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That is what the world is starting to get, remove the United States as being the holder of the reserve currency of the world i.e. reset. The United States receives the greatest benefit from the existing system, yet its on a crash course to destroy it on purpose.

Until their is a viable replacement for our system or economy the world is stuck with us or a lot of turmoil
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No after reset is the liquidation phase, what gets liquidated isn't financial assets... its the breathing kind. I seriously doubt you will see the emergence of another global system in your lifetime.

Its going to suck, you don't feed 7 billion people without functioning credit system.... lots of Americans are going to have to go as well.

The United States is never going to get a better deal than it has today... destroying it like they are destroying everything else doesn't seem too wise to me, just my two cents.
 
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MontyPython said:
Bad if true. Anybody?


Elon Musk Spoke to Putin Before Tweeting Ukraine Peace Plan: Report

The world’s richest man spoke directly with Vladimir Putin, Eurasia Group’s Ian Bremmer wrote.

Elon Musk spoke directly with Russian President Vladimir Putin before tweeting a proposal to end the war in Ukraine that would have seen territory permanently ceded to Russia, it has been claimed.
In a mailout sent to Eurasia Group subscribers, Ian Bremmer wrote that Tesla CEO Musk told him that Putin was “prepared to negotiate,” but only if Crimea remained Russian, if Ukraine accepted a form of permanent neutrality, and Ukraine recognised Russia’s annexation of Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia.
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I realize it's a negotiation but if he wants to be taken seriously he ought to make a serious initial demand.

Don't see why they can't agree to a one week ceasefire and settlement talks.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I realize it's a negotiation but if he wants to be taken seriously he ought to make a serious initial demand.

Don't see why they can't agree to a one week ceasefire and settlement talks.
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Because Ukraine's master isn't going to agree to any of that. Short bus rider?

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JuicyBrucey said:
That article didn't provide any quotes from Putin threatening to use nuclear weapons. Are there any that do?
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'This Is Not a Bluff.' Putin Raises Specter of Nuclear Weapons Following Battlefield Losses

What does "by all means" mean to you? Are you really relying on the semantics? I mean maybe in Russian that's a less threatening, but the translation comes across as "nukes"

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/01/world/europe/washington-putin-nuclear-threats.html

Here he references our use of nukes in a war as precedent.

Not really "Russian", but works "hand in glove" with Russia, Kadroyov has mentioned using nukes, included in the second link.
 
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