War in Ukraine

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Hey genius, did I say it was a great plan or did I clearly place doubt on that being the case? I clearly stated that they likely anticipated an offensive but were obviously caught off guard or undereducated the level of the Ukrainians' response.

Crawl back in your hole...
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Hey stooge, you literally said and I quote “I'm on the fence on whether I believe this was some great plan by the Russians to draw them out.” Even entertaining the idea that the Russians retreating, giving up ground, abandoning armor/vehicles/equipment for the Ukrainians to take was possibly some sort of “genius plan” is fu***** idiotic. Go look up some more quotes from your terrorist idol kadyrov now.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I’ve been over this with Ras. “Guarantees” would have meant US troops dying in Ukraine “assurances” was used to avoid that and absolutely was intended to convey lethal aid. And pedantically parsing it now to say otherwise is disingenuous
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I understand what you are saying but nothing in those "assurances" specifies weapons or any aid for that matter.
 
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hog88 said:
It would be the best solution.
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There's a better chance of Ukrainian military going after 3elensky.

The best solution at this point would be for 3elensky to ignore the UK and US and go back to the negotiating table. The deal will not be the same as what could have been negotiated in March/April or the Minsk II agreements, however.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Was it worth the loss of equipment and manpower? Probably not, it was more than likely a miscalculation on the part of Russia.
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We just spent two decades in Afghanistan fighting The Taliban, only for them to be running Afghanistan right now. We have no room to talk about alleged military miscalculations.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
There's a better chance of Ukrainian military going after 3elensky.

The best solution at this point would be for 3elensky to ignore the UK and US and go back to the negotiating table. The deal will not be the same as what could have been negotiated in March/April or the Minsk II agreements, however.
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No, the best thing for Ukraine is to kill every Russian soldier that refuses to go back home and that includes those in Crimea. Then as the body count increases the Russian people overthrow Putin and drag his dead body through the streets and toss it in the Moskva.
 
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hog88 said:
I understand what you are saying but nothing in those "assurances" specifies weapons or any aid for that matter.
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All of the signatories at the time understood it to mean that and today only Russia is claiming otherwise for obvious reasons. Without even a minimum commitment to lethal aid it’s a worthless document. Which of course opens up a whole other discussion.

And no I’m not advocating for us to be continually entering entangling agreements I would hope we never sign a damn document like that again. But… we’ve signed it so we need to man up
 
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615vols said:
Hey stooge, you literally said and I quote “I'm on the fence on whether I believe this was some great plan by the Russians to draw them out.” Even entertaining the idea that the Russians retreating, giving up ground, abandoning armor/vehicles/equipment for the Ukrainians to take was possibly some sort of “genius plan” is fu***** idiotic. Go look up some more quotes from your terrorist idol kadyrov now.
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If you are not bright enough to read what I posted and realize that I didn't buy the master plan narrative, you are a clown. Again, go back and read exactly WTF I said in full context. If you the brain power to warm toast, you would see how ridiculous you look... or just out to twist my words and distort the message I was laying out.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
All of the signatories at the time understood it to mean that and today only Russia is claiming otherwise for obvious reasons. Without even a minimum commitment to lethal aid it’s a worthless document. Which of course opens up a whole other discussion.

And no I’m not advocating for us to be continually entering entangling agreements I would hope we never sign a damn document like that again. But… we’ve signed it so we need to man up
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It was a worthless document to begin with if it didn't spell out exactly what the "assurances" were.
 
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615vols said:
You post sh** from kadyrov. No propaganda there 😂
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Kadyrov is actually involved and has his finger on the pulse of this situation. The Institute for War or whatever they are are a bunch of neocon/globalist circle jerkers creating BS narratives for sheeple like you to consume.

Again, crawl back in your hole.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Kadyrov is actually involved has has his finger on the pulse of this situation. The Institute for War or whatever they are are a bunch of neocon/globalist circle jerkers creating BS narratives for sheeple like you to consume.

Again, crawl back in your hole.
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Kadyrov is a Pootin lapdog and will say whatever Pootin wants and it’s stupid as hell to claim otherwise Moe
 
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hog88 said:
I understand what you are saying but nothing in those "assurances" specifies weapons or any aid for that matter.
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I'll go a step further... even Article 5 in NATO doesn't require or mandate military action by member states. You know they left themselves a bit of wiggle room in case some mouse that roars in the group stirs up trouble.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Kadyrov is actually involved has has his finger on the pulse of this situation. The Institute for War or whatever they are are a bunch of neocon/globalist circle jerkers creating BS narratives for sheeple like you to consume.

Again, crawl back in your hole.
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Kadyrov is a piss boy who inherited, then betrayed his daddy's legacy so he could rule over a country with a broken back while styling the latest fashions
 
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hog88 said:
Lawyers could f^ck up a wet dream.
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Meh... on the one hand it is a clever and sneaky way of doing business, but in this particular situation, the loophole is beneficial because you don't need to go to war just over any and every situation that may pop up. Discernment, discretion and diplomacy need to be attempted before anything else.
 
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apevol said:
Kadyrov is a piss boy who inherited, then betrayed his daddy's legacy so he could rule over a country with a broken back while styling the latest fashions
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So he's no better or worse than most western politicians.

Again, pointing out the spot in their eye but ignoring the beam in ours.
 
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