War in Ukraine

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Because the man they voted for and elected in 2010 was overthrown with the help of US State Department. At that point, the govt in Kyiv in their minds was illegitimate.

Not much different than some Americans feel about the 2020 election.
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You mean the guy quoted as saying he wanted closer ties to the West?

The Ukrainian President's Big Broken Promise

"We decided that our main goal will be integration in Europe at the first congress in 1997, and in all these years we not only never changed our program, we are even more convinced that Ukraine should be a part of Europe."

That was Yanukovych going back to at least 2008. He got kicked out because he was a traitor to the people who elected him and his country.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Either way, you have the Russian leadership in The Far East engaged and involved in these exercises and carrying on as though business as usual. This isn't behavior of a leadership team that seems to be in panic mode or appears to be concerned about the pace of Ukraine. Plus, if the conflict was going as bad as you believe, the Chinese and Indians wouldn't have a desire to get anywhere near Russia right now to engage in military games.
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Afghanistan was a complete disaster for us. We had plenty of willing war game partners during that 20 year debacle.

Also why would the Russian Far Eastern military assets ever be involved or care about what's going on in Ukraine, thousands of miles away? Going back to afghanistan we had far more assets back at home than we did in Afghanistan, and they werent concerned about Afganistan. We had far more assets deployed around the world than we did in Afghanistan, and they didnt care either.

Our Pacific Fleet doesnt get involved in the same conflicts/deployments as our Atlantic fleet, and that is half the distance as Vladisvostok is from Ukraine.

You justify your stances with the most inane arguments.
 
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Imagine that... a govt official that is actually looking out for the best interest of his own people instead of virtue signaling and waving the gold and blue flag.

 
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LSU-SIU said:
The war is an economic war and really has been since Day 2.

Erdogan "Understands" Putin's Decision To Cut Off Gas To Germany, Blames West's "Provocations"

ndia Dashes US "Hopes" On Oil Price Cap: "We Will Buy From Russia, We'll Buy From Wherever"

We'll see how that war plays out, probably looking at years.
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Perfect.

US and the pro-Ukraine allies have an annual GDP > $45 Trillion.

Russia < $2 Trillion.

Wonder who wins the economic war... hmmmm?

LSU gets pawned yet again. Just like the real LSU. :cool:
 
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Ukraine forces reportedly already attacking Shevchenkove east of Kharkiv. Huge if true.

Kup'yans'k is THE gateway for all Russian rail and truck supplies to Izyum and Donbas... and is only 35ish kilometers from Shevchenkove. So...

HIMARS likely gonna produce some spectacular ammo dump firework shows soon.

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MontyPython said:
They're gonna kick Russia's ass out of Ukraine, that's where.
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At some point, after being wrong for months saying this ridiculous line, you think you would be embarrassed to keep posting in this thread let alone keep repeating it. Trolling this thread doesn't get old for you?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Imagine that... a govt official that is actually looking out for the best interest of his own people instead of virtue signaling and waving the gold and blue flag.
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India/China are making money on the trade, buy it from Russia, resell to Europe at a super high premium. Europe is getting energy supply but they are paying much more than anyone else.... its stupidity on a whole other level. Globally, I think peak energy price for a bit pending any new developments. Prices seem to be easing and slowly globally... too early to tell if United States or global slowdown beyond a small mild recession. ???

Generally speaking, white nations are going to be in very big trouble medium to long-term as they are not putting in resources, money, and time into securing long-term cheap energy sources. Europe is in trouble even if they weren't at war with Russia. Modern civilization and production runs off of cheap energy.
 
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MontyPython said:
Perfect.

US and the pro-Ukraine allies have an annual GDP > $45 Trillion.

Russia < $2 Trillion.

Wonder who wins the economic war... hmmmm?

LSU gets pawned yet again. Just like the real LSU. :cool:
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Gonna go out on a limb and say the Soviet apologist lap dogs here dont have math as a strong suit.
 
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