War in Ukraine

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hog88 said:
Afghanistan invasion was justified, the subsequent occupation was fubar.

Panama was over 30 years ago, ask me how I know.
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So ****ing what? LOL Nobody ****ing cares. Anyone can justify anything. Russia doesn't have to justify anything to you, its not your business. LOL

You absolutely have no moral high ground, matter of fact, you're underground.

Heck, the United States was blowing people up (ISIS), arming those same people than arming a third party as well Saudi Arabia which uses those weapons all in a country that is sovereign i.e. Syria. Nobody cares.

The world listening to the Americans/Europeans as to right and wrong went out the door decades ago.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Let's by pass the question of "sovereignty" for a bit.

The United States and various countries of Europe have been invading "sovereign" countries since they have been around, in the last 25-30 years they have taken it to a whole other level, right? I mean, nobody is crying about all that are we? Why do we care if its Russia and not the United States or Europe? At the end of the day you don't really care about any of those people, right?
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LMAO and there you have it folks! The stooge goto whataboutism defense! 🤡
 
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LSU-SIU said:
So ****ing what? LOL Nobody ****ing cares. Anyone can justify anything. Russia doesn't have to justify anything to you, its not your business. LOL

You absolutely have no moral high ground, matter of fact, you're underground.
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Somebody needs a Snickers.

I never said we had any moral ground to stand on. As a matter of fact I have posted numerous times that we shouldn't be financing Ukraine's defense, it's a Europe problem and Europe should be footing the bill to help Ukraine. What I find unbelievable is your defense of Russia and your faux concern for Ukrainian lives.
 
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hog88 said:
Somebody needs a Snickers.

I never said we had any moral ground to stand on. As a matter of fact I have posted numerous times that we shouldn't be financing Ukraine's defense, it's a Europe problem and Europe should be footing the bill to help Ukraine. What I find unbelievable is your defense of Russia and your faux concern for Ukrainian lives.
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If I hate the Ukrainians, I would tell them to keep doing what they are doing.

I don't feel like I have to defend Russia, but in the spirit of discussion... I generally get the point of what they are doing and why they are doing it. Going to war is a hard thing, but none of that is our concern. (generally speaking) This would have been over 5 months ago if not for other parties.

This will not work out well for the Ukraine.

never said we had any moral ground to stand on.
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But you kind of added on with my discussion with the other guy who is implying that. Thank you for clarification.

I appreciate that, and I have liked your comment.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
If I hate the Ukrainians, I would tell them to keep doing what they are doing.

I don't feel like I have to defend Russia, but in the spirit of discussion... I generally get the point of what they are doing and why they are doing it. Going to war is a hard thing, but none of that is our concern. (generally speaking) This would have been over 5 months ago if not for other parties.

This will not work out well for the Ukraine.
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Russia had zero justification to invade Ukraine and I'm not sad to see Russian bodies stacked like cordwood.

It's not going to work out well for either Ukraine or Russia.
 
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hog88 said:
Russia had zero justification to invade Ukraine and I'm not sad to see Russian bodies stacked like cordwood.

It's not going to work out well for either Ukraine or Russia.
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Russia will get their major objectives done in the Ukraine, its just not going to be easy as they might like.
 
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hog88 said:
Oh were you referring to this weeks objective? It's changed so much since the invasion it's hard for us that don't get the emails to keep up.
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No, its pretty simple... major objectives... no nato & de-militarization to a degree. The rest are minor objectives/goals which they started adding/delete to the list that they might accomplish. The major ones they have no real choice, meaning the Ukraine will have to submit to those major objectives or continue to be turned into a parking lot.

Its really not very complicated.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
No, its pretty simple... major objectives... no nato & de-militarization to a degree. The rest are minor objectives/goals which they started adding/delete to the list that they might accomplish. The major ones they have no real choice, meaning the Ukraine will have to submit to those major objectives or continue to be turned into a parking lot.

Its really not very complicated.
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Pure delusion.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Its not being turned into a parking lot? I'm so confused, I thought the Russians were invading a sovereign country and causing problems. I guess now all is well.
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Yes you are confused. There is medication for that so there is hope.
 
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hog88 said:
Yes you are confused. There is medication for that so there is hope.
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Well, to be honest... maybe you are right but I wish you would stick with something. I mean, one second the bad Russians are invading a sovereign nation and doing bad things, next minute... no such thing is occurring.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Well, to be honest... maybe you are right but I wish you would stick with something. I mean, one second the bad Russians are invading a sovereign nation and doing bad things, next minute... no such thing is occurring.
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Yes the Russians are bad people who invaded a sovereign nation without justification. Yes they are the cause of mass destruction and suffering. No, they are not winning nor are they turning the country into a "parking lot".
 
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hog88 said:
Yes the Russians are bad people who invaded a sovereign nation without justification. Yes they are the cause of mass destruction and suffering. No, they are not winning nor are they turning the country into a "parking lot".
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They already won (meaning their objectives will be completed one way or the other), which is why they don't even talk about it too much. The war moved to Europe ie economic.

What goes on in Ukraine will be insignficant details i.e. Afghanistan, Syria, etc.
 
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hog88 said:
Nah, I'm out. It's like arguing with a toddler or emotional female.
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The Ukraine War is about as much a war as a bombing test range. Its just simply a place for all the countries to agree to land bombs. The Ukrainians can either choose to stay on the bomb test range or not, at the end of the day if people want to commit suicide... be my guest.
 
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