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#3,101
BigPapaVol said:
Kostis did a good job laying out Phil's problems.

Riviera isn't the place to miss a lot of greens. That grass is brutal every year. Almost as bad as the ice plant in No. CA.
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just gave me something else to think about my swing
is my right knee moving toward the target line or toward my left knee
like I need something else to worry about
 
#3,103
#3,103
Mickelson is still a prick, but all of the conjecture about his demise was, as several pointed out, absolute bunk.
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#3,109
#3,109
i was cheering hard for Boom Boom, but it just wasn't in the cards. Nice end by Mickelson. If he can carry that kind of confidence into some consistent play, Augusta sets up nicely for him.
 
#3,111
#3,111
orange+white=heaven said:
I will simply never understand Phil Mickelson...
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and that's what makes it so exciting to watch him. You know Tiger. If his driver somehow is straight, he's probably winning by 20 strokes regardless of what event or where it's at (save I guess the British because he rarely uses it there). If his putter is on, he's going to win, it just might be slightly close.

With Phil, everything is constantly changing, but he might throw up enough super low days to get some wins. He's still masterful at chipping. I'd actually say he's better at chipping than Tiger, but as BPV alluded to earlier, because of Tiger's putting ability, Tiger gets the nod for all around short game.
 
#3,113
#3,113
volfanbill said:
and that's what makes it so exciting to watch him. You know Tiger. If his driver somehow is straight, he's probably winning by 20 strokes regardless of what event or where it's at (save I guess the British because he rarely uses it there). If his putter is on, he's going to win, it just might be slightly close.

With Phil, everything is constantly changing, but he might throw up enough super low days to get some wins. He's still masterful at chipping. I'd actually say he's better at chipping than Tiger, but as BPV alluded to earlier, because of Tiger's putting ability, Tiger gets the nod for all around short game.
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I would even say that Tiger is a better player with a wedge than Lefty.
 
#3,114
#3,114
orange+white=heaven said:
You must like NASCAR as well..... Ya know, waiting for the big wreck....:p
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nah, I keep up with it mostly just to play the pick 'em game, but NASCAR bores me.

It's not that I expect a huge "Phail" from Phil, it's just he's "like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get".
 
#3,117
#3,117
volfanbill said:
I disagree. Phil is much more creative to pull off close shots that have no business being close.
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Yes, Phil does get it close, but Tiger puts the ball in the cup. I would love to say that Phil is better than Tiger on any aspect of the game, but I am to the point know that I can no longer argue for Phil.
 
#3,118
#3,118
VolinConcord said:
Kinda of moot point when you are talking about Phil. He has always been on the "wild side" when it comes to the driver and iron play.
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but Augusta, while having been changed to place a premium on driving the ball, is still a second shot golf course. If he doesn't have control of his irons much better than what I saw on Sunday, he'll work to make the cut. What he showed on Saturday would work, but the Sunday pressure (which would be relived all 4 days at Augusta) destroyed his "new" swing.
 
#3,119
#3,119
VolinConcord said:
Yes, Phil does get it close, but Tiger puts the ball in the cup. I would love to say that Phil is better than Tiger on any aspect of the game, but I am to the point know that I can no longer argue for Phil.
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not with regularity. He gets his chips within 5-10 feet the majority of the time and just doesn't miss those putts. If Phil's chip shots are only landing within 5-10 feet, he's going to miss some.
 
#3,121
#3,121
volfanbill said:
not with regularity. He gets his chips within 5-10 feet the majority of the time and just doesn't miss those putts. If Phil's chip shots are only landing within 5-10 feet, he's going to miss some.
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I think you're underestimating Tiger's wedge game. The difference is that under tension, when it gets tougher to get it close, Tiger can make the putts, Phil can't.

Regardless, Phil canned 3 huge putts on the final 3 holes yesterday for a win against a good field on a very respected course.
 
#3,122
#3,122
sad week for Boom Boom:

A sad end to a sad week for Couples | Tours & News | Golf.com

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Not long after another bruising defeat on one of his favorite courses, Fred Couples slowly made his way to the parking lot after a week at Riviera that was turbulent in so many ways.
He learned on Tuesday that his estranged wife, Thais Baker, died of breast cancer.

Then, the 49-year-old with graying hair and an achy back put himself in the final group for the first time in nearly three years and came to the 18th hole at Riviera within one shot of the lead.

"I just couldn't make another one at 18," he said.
Couples considered pulling out of the Northern Trust Open when he learned his wife - divorce proceedings have been ongoing for the last three years - died at their home in Santa Barbara about two hours to the north.

"There's not much I can say," Couples said of a complicated breakup. "I'm not really welcome up there. So I decided to play."
She was diagnosed with breast cancer a few weeks after they began dating, and they married in 1998. She had two children from a previous marriage, 18-year-old Gigi and Oliver, who just turned 16. Even after they broke up, Couples moved back in with his wife in March 2007, but the attempt at reconciliation lasted only six months.

"She was a very nice person," Couples said. "I think I'm a good guy, and I'm sure her friends think I'm a bad guy. That's irrelevant. We just get didn't get along that well. And we never got divorced."
He was aware that Baker's cancer had returned, and she took a turn for the worse at the end of last year. Couples said she continued to live in their sprawling estate.

"She wanted to die in the house, and that's what happened," he said. "She did everything she could to make it another month."

After he shot 65 on Saturday to get into the final group, Couples tried to say hello to Oliver at the end of his interview with CBS Sports, but the camera had turned away.

"It's going to be a struggle for the kids," Couples said. "I still text Oliver, which is fun. He jumps right on."
With that, he climbed into his car and headed off. Couples said he planned to take the next month off, and hoped to be allowed to help out with the kids, particularly the son.
 
#3,123
#3,123
BigPapaVol said:
I think you're underestimating Tiger's wedge game. The difference is that under tension, when it gets tougher to get it close, Tiger can make the putts, Phil can't.

Regardless, Phil canned 3 huge putts on the final 3 holes yesterday for a win against a good field on a very respected course.
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I don't think it matters whether or not it's under tension, Tiger makes the putts, Phil doesn't. I thought I established that point, sorry for any confusion. Mere chipping, I'd take Phil. Total short game I take Tiger because he's very close behind Phil in chipping and light years ahead in putting.

Even if the Nike man uses a Scotty with a Ping grip.
 
#3,124
#3,124
doozer said:
sad week for Boom Boom:

A sad end to a sad week for Couples | Tours & News | Golf.com

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Not long after another bruising defeat on one of his favorite courses, Fred Couples slowly made his way to the parking lot after a week at Riviera that was turbulent in so many ways.
He learned on Tuesday that his estranged wife, Thais Baker, died of breast cancer.

Then, the 49-year-old with graying hair and an achy back put himself in the final group for the first time in nearly three years and came to the 18th hole at Riviera within one shot of the lead.

"I just couldn't make another one at 18," he said.
Couples considered pulling out of the Northern Trust Open when he learned his wife - divorce proceedings have been ongoing for the last three years - died at their home in Santa Barbara about two hours to the north.

"There's not much I can say," Couples said of a complicated breakup. "I'm not really welcome up there. So I decided to play."
She was diagnosed with breast cancer a few weeks after they began dating, and they married in 1998. She had two children from a previous marriage, 18-year-old Gigi and Oliver, who just turned 16. Even after they broke up, Couples moved back in with his wife in March 2007, but the attempt at reconciliation lasted only six months.

"She was a very nice person," Couples said. "I think I'm a good guy, and I'm sure her friends think I'm a bad guy. That's irrelevant. We just get didn't get along that well. And we never got divorced."
He was aware that Baker's cancer had returned, and she took a turn for the worse at the end of last year. Couples said she continued to live in their sprawling estate.

"She wanted to die in the house, and that's what happened," he said. "She did everything she could to make it another month."

After he shot 65 on Saturday to get into the final group, Couples tried to say hello to Oliver at the end of his interview with CBS Sports, but the camera had turned away.

"It's going to be a struggle for the kids," Couples said. "I still text Oliver, which is fun. He jumps right on."
With that, he climbed into his car and headed off. Couples said he planned to take the next month off, and hoped to be allowed to help out with the kids, particularly the son.
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sad tale. Nice that Thais wasn't the utter bitch that Freddie's first wife was.
 
#3,125
#3,125
BigPapaVol said:
sad tale. Nice that Thais wasn't the utter bitch that Freddie's first wife was.
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Sucks for Freddie, but I hope it just further shows that despite the glamour and fame of being a professional athlete, all athletes are people. People with serious problems, personal problems, lots of drama and the same stresses that Everyday Joe has. Save perhaps the whole financial stress thing.
 
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