To Protect and to Serve II

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NashVol11 said:
It’s literally their job to not react out of emotion and start beating people to death. That’s what they are trained to do, it’s not some new-age leftist idea.

Even if I get punched in the back of the head I’m not trying to go 3-on-1 and bash someone’s head into the concrete when they’re not a threat. What kind of cowardly **** is that? If I can manage not to act like a brainless caveman during a fight, a trained cop sure as hell should do better.
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As a 20 YO with one week of training, I worked with adults who couldn't manage their lives and take care of themselves. Almost all of them either they had a screw loose or they were mentally handicapped. You'd take them shopping. You'd make them dinner. You'd make sure they didn't leave their apartment unsupervised, etc. Every once in a while, **** would go down. I got swung on. I got threatened by a girl with a knife. We were only allowed to restrain them until they calmed down. If we punched them or slammed them, that was it. Terminated. There was one kid who was on the varsity wrestling team while he was in the program, and he outweighed me by like 15 lbs. I would have been ****ed, but thank goodness he was chill.

I think that's too strict of a standard for cops, but the idea that we shouldn't expect them to not beat the **** out of somebody who asked for it...we expect more from low-skilled, immature, private sector workers and get it.
 
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Sea Ray said:
These cops will likely lose their careers over this but that doesn't lessen anything Carl said which is reality
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The reality of “oh, many cops are garbage human beings, it happens” is a reality partially because we have a bunch of people like those in this thread carrying water for POS human beings as long as they have a badge.

As a police officer you don’t get to just beat someone to death because they did something you don’t like, so if it’s “the norm” that says more about how our society slobbers over cops than anything else
 
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NashVol11 said:
The reality of “oh, many cops are garbage human beings, it happens” is a reality partially because we have a bunch of people like those in this thread carrying water for POS human beings as long as they have a badge.

As a police officer you don’t get to just beat someone to death because they did something you don’t like, so if it’s “the norm” that says more about how our society slobbers over cops than anything else
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Every profession has garbage human beings. I actually think very few cops qualify as garbage human beings. I'm all for weeding those guys out
 
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n_huffhines said:
There was somebody on VN trying to crucify NFL players because they had a higher rate of violence than what their income bracket would predict (not even higher than the general public)...I wish I could remember who it was so I could @ him right now.
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Why?
 
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VolStrom said:
So does this mean that if a cop comes to my front door or car door and gets recorded by my door bell cam or dash cam I'm breaking the law? I don't think so.
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After a warning, apparently. Because I totally trust cops to give warnings before they beat me senseless.
 
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NashVol11 said:
What is even the rationale behind that law? Recording cops doesn’t harm them in any way until they start senselessly killing people
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Accountability has never really been a thing among cops. Apparently instead of fixing the issue, they think hiding it out of the public view is the way to go.
 
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NashVol11 said:
What is even the rationale behind that law? Recording cops doesn’t harm them in any way until they start senselessly killing people
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It doesn't prevent recording cops. Here's the rationale stated by a sponsor.

"I agreed to run this bill because there are groups hostile to the police that follow them around to videotape police incidents, and they get dangerously close to potentially violent encounters," Kavanagh wrote, also adding that today's cell phone cameras would still pick up details from eight feet away.

It's not the recording, it's the proximity, that's being addressed.

Apparently there's some vagueness in how some of the wording could be interpreted and that should be looked at which it would seem is at the heart of ACLU/news filings.
 
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NashVol11 said:
What is even the rationale behind that law? Recording cops doesn’t harm them in any way until they start senselessly killing people
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It makes a constitutionally protected activity a crime.
Time place and manner in turner v driver was never narrowly defined. This could be interesting.
 
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Maryland Police Officer Sued for Threatening a 5-Year-Old Boy, County Settles

The fact that the cops were sued over this is ridiculous, and even more ridiculous that there was a settlement. A kid walked out of school, they eventually found him and made the experience unpleasant by yelling at him. They did the right thing, and I doubt he will attempt something like this again. Society has gone too soft and become too lawsuit-happy.
 
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