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I compare them to AC/DC. When a CCR/Fogerty song comes on you know immediately who it is. There's nothing wrong with having a signature sounds.

That's not a bad comparison. The Rolling Stones are the same way as are a ton of bands. As soon as you hear a few notes, you know it's them.
 
Best concert I ever attended was John Fogerty circa 2012. A cold October night at an outdoor venue in Norcross, Georgia. Absolutely fantastic show. Hit after hit after hit.
He played a secret show at Mercy Lounge some years back...man!, I've been so lucky so many times, being in the right place/right time whenever it came to a great secret show.
 
The crap I hate currently is how people think folks in 2022 are being throwback...when really they're just shaving off a style out of nowhere for a single hit, having no history in it, then getting all the credit. Literally have seen umpteen articles about how Beyonce "brought back House music" from the 90s...as if Justice, Daft Punk, and many many others also in the chicago, jersey, and detroit scenes haven't been killing it the past 20+ years.

What a joke. If it isn't on the radio for the idiocracy, I guess it just doesn't exist then 😒
i have no idea what any of that means.

i just found out Rob Ickes has his own band with a guitarist.

they've been touring for a decade🤦🏼‍♂️
 
i have no idea what any of that means.

i just found out Rob Ickes has his own band with a guitarist.

they've been touring for a decade🤦🏼‍♂️
It means if Taylor Swift suddenly put out a bluegrass song, the public would trip all over themselves to say "bluegrass has been revived from the dead". It's ignorant and silly.

Just because something isn't pop or on the public radio, which sucks to begin with, doesn't mean it isn't thriving heavily. Great music can be found everywhere nowadays (except the radio). Yet radio hits define the public's imagination of what modern music "is".
 
I follow this stuff pretty closely bc baseball is pretty much my life…. We live at the facility…… a couple of years ago they did a study on how curveballs were bad for youth pitchers…. They were talking about banning curveballs in youth sports…. The study ended up concluding the opposite that curveballs do not put any extra strain on the arm. They said that they didn’t recommend throwing them but couldn’t find any evidence that they were bad for kids.

That’s different than what every shoulder and elbow specialist shows. Little league shoulder and elbow comes from too many pitches affecting growth plates. Torque from pitching is more with curves…depending on how it’s taught. More torque trying to throw it harder too for sure.

Funny thing is that if you groove the proper mechanics, then you can effortlessly throw faster…
 
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I appreciate it, Prof, thank you...but, I know all the history, have known it for a long time, you're not wrong...still doesn't change what Elvis meant TO IT ALL.

Also, as far as singing, being a great singer, James Brown shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Elvis.

Michael Jackson is in a league of his own.

Depends on the sound you enjoy. Elvis is closer to Frank Sinatra than a rock n' roll singer. He's a crooner not a blues man or even a rock n' roll star. Even though what he meant to proto-rock and early rock is undeniable. James is closer to an old school blues howler/field caller even old tyme gospel. Hell he's closer to Brother Claude Ely:

Elvis is closer to Dean Martin, Sinatra, even Nat King Cole.
 
Depends on how you throw it…Nolan Ryan could throw one without twisting the elbow and tourquing it so much. Was more about arm angle. But I would not recommend throwing one at 10-12 years old.

Absolutely cannot compare full grown men with children with growth plates. Humongous difference in the ability to withstand the torque. Limiting pitching and adequate rest days are paramount to limiting injury to the throwing arm.

We do incoming physical exams on scholarship pitchers. Can’t begin to count the number of injuries we find. Result of poor mechanics and overuse more often than not…

Totally agree @VolGee4.
 
I got this. Chuck Berry is the true King of Rock and Roll and also substantially more of a creep than Elvis. That being said Elvis was still a creep.
Which of these people we have talked about tonight is NOT a creep?
 
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Study says fastballs, not curveballs, wreck elbows

Here is an article on how I believe….Although, we are doing what I agree leads to arm injuries…. Trying to get as much velocity out of his arm as possible…. We are very careful about overusing his arm. My son throws a curveball, slider(Jacob Degrom version), 2 seam fastball, and a change up….. Mainly just throws heat in games…. Practice the others when he do bullpens.

How old is your son?
Overuse is what wrecks their arms. Not following strict pitching limits…even worse is poor mechanics. Regardless of the pitch type , high repetition of poor mechanics is the main culprit.
Most Tommy John surgery pitchers will tell you that in order to return to pitching, they were essentially forced to learn proper mechanics to be successful. Look at Ben Joyce’s mechanics now. Pretty dang good. If you compare it to pre-surgery, then I would bet it’s significantly different.
I read parts of the article, the author throws anecdotal evidence in next to the scientific articles that he quotes…Dr. James Andrews perfected the Tommy John surgery and what I posted above is pretty much verbatim from him. Poor mechanics plus excessive pitching results in injury and damage to these young pitchers.
 
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I'm not gonna argue with you, I'll leave that to all the badass rock n rollers who have said it over and over about The Beatles. They quite literally could play ANY TYPE of tune you could possibly want to listen to, and make it as if it were the very first time you were hearing those sounds...they were masters, no matter the genre. Zeppelin couldn't do that, as much as I love them. Dude, they're my second favorite that's ever been, ahead The Who, The Stones, The Clash, CCR, Cream...

I know what the rock n rollers and experts say, but the vast majority of everyday rock n roll fans I know wonder why everyone thinks the Beatles are so great. Personally, I think they truly are among the greats, and I think they deserve a lot of credit as groundbreakers and originalists. However, their early stuff doesn’t seem like much more than bubble gum pop to me, and I can think of as many as 10 other rock acts - including Led Zeppelin - that I would choose to listen to over them.
 
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Finally after a long day at work and then church, I get to sit down to catch up, and there’s so many pages! Imagine my disappointment when y’all are arguing musical taste…again. LOL I remember my college music professor saying after he went over how the Beatles grew in 10 years what it took classical hundreds of years, and they led the way for many others that came after them, that there were always those that had to make themselves superior to whatever was popular and find ways to put it down. He said we like what we like, and we can also study and appreciate what is excellent without having to mix the two. So someone can have an amazing voice that people love to hear sing because it touches them even if that voice barely goes over an octave. And you can appreciate a singer that hits 4 octaves flawlessly without ever wanting to play a song of theirs again. Y’all brought that back to my memory from 1984!!! 🧡 Music! “Rocky Top” is the best!
 
Depends on the sound you enjoy. Elvis is closer to Frank Sinatra than a rock n' roll singer. He's a crooner not a blues man or even a rock n' roll star. Even though what he meant to proto-rock and early rock is undeniable. James is closer to an old school blues howler/field caller even old tyme gospel. Hell he's closer to Brother Claude Ely:

Elvis is closer to Dean Martin, Sinatra, even Nat King Cole.

Tonight, i have found myself in conversations about the Stones being "garbage", The Beatles making "experimental crap", and "Elvis was not a rock n roll star...he was Frank Sinatra". It's my fault...I'm slipping, especially...

...here. I know why you do it, Prof, think the way you do about Elvis...anyone who pays attention knows. Ill end with this, Elvis was more Mississippi Delta than Brown ever was; more so than many others, also. James Brown grew up singing and playing and dancing to the music that he loved and was surrounded by, and he died doing it, too...so did Elvis. Rock n roll wasn't born the day Elvis walked into Sun, not at all; however, it WAS the day that he introduced rock n roll to the world. And, he was as good as ANYONE at doing it.
 
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