President Joe Biden - Kamala Harris Administration

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volfanhill said:
You don't understand how the process works. Every single time we sell oil from our reserve it is sold to the highest bidder. So this Texas based Chinese company offered the most for the oil. The oil isn't designed to be sold at a discount. The process is to rescue the price at the pump simply by increasing the supply on the market. I am against doing it now and was under trump. There is no scandal here. Biden would have to prevent every other company on earth from out bidding the Chinese one. See below.

When an administration orders the release of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, “the Department of Energy puts out a notice of sale that alerts companies that oil will be made available for purchase,” said Hugh Daigle, a professor in the University of Texas-Austin Department of Petroleum and Geosystems Engineering. “Companies then bid competitively on the oil, and the winning bidders receive the oil and the bid price.” The winning company works out with the Energy Department when and how it will take possession of the oil.
Sometimes the winning bidders may be U.S. refiners, Daigle said, in which case the oil quickly boosts U.S. gasoline supplies. But in other cases, he said, foreign companies win the bid. This increases the supply of global crude oil and, eventually, helps lower prices in the United States.
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How much did we get per barrel? Seems relevant.
The CCP and India supposedly get discounts for Russian oil

Russian Oil Going About 10% Cheaper in China as Flows Upended
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
au contraire Tucking tail and running in the manner we did certainly made a difference. It was a cluster**** for the ages.
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LG missed the memorial service for our soldiers KIA, the people falling to their deaths from the landing gear, and the stories of Americans left behind at the mercy of terrorists.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
LG missed the memorial service for our soldiers KIA, the people falling to their deaths from the landing gear, and the stories of Americans left behind at the mercy of terrorists.
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Sigh....

It's like you haven't read any part of the discussion.

For the umpteenth time, I AGREE that the withdrawal was done poorly. I AGREE that Biden deserves criticism for the manner of it.

But in terms of this narrow issue, it was the fact of withdrawal that allowed this guy to be there, not the manner of it, and Trump would also have withdrawn.

You can argue to the cows come home how exactly a Trump withdrawal may or may not have been done differently. It's useless speculation.

But it has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Sigh....

It's like you haven't read any part of the discussion.

For the umpteenth time, I AGREE that the withdrawal was done poorly. I AGREE that Biden deserves criticism for the manner of it.

But in terms of this narrow issue, it was the fact of withdrawal that allowed this guy to be there, not the manner of it, and Trump would also have withdrawn.

You can argue to the cows come home how exactly a Trump withdrawal may or may not have been done differently. It's useless speculation.

But it has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
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If Trump would have handled Afghanistan like Biden did, he would have been impeached in both sides of Congress by sunset. That’s a fact not speculation.
 
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lostsheep said:
If a president is to be blamed for negative economic news during their administration, it is only logical they should be credited for positive economic news as well, no?
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No. He’s blamed because he’s not taken any action at all to address it. His only moves have been to add more money to an overheated economy. And it’s idiotic to claim otherwise his record speaks for itself.
 
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lostsheep said:
My point stands. I am record as saying you have to give him credit when there is good economic news during his administration. Yet...you can't.
Asking me to point to a specific policy impacting the current economic situation is the deflection here.
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You’ve made no actual point.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
This mismanaged and rushed exit resulted in chaotic congestion at the departure point and got 13 service members needlessly killed.
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It was unorganized and reckless, and gave people an insight into the incompetence of this administration. Henderson's poll numbers started its descent into parts unknown.
 
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SlingBlayde said:
If Trump would have handled Afghanistan like Biden did, he would have been impeached in both sides of Congress by sunset. That’s a fact not speculation.
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It's impossible for that to be a fact.

An example of a fact is that after 4yrs of Trump we were still active in Afghanistan just like his predecessors.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
This mismanaged and rushed exit resulted in chaotic congestion at the departure point and got 13 service members needlessly killed.
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The whole ME nation building experiment cost how many lives? Cost how many trillions?

Complain about the process which was a mess but the simple fact is they got us out. I don't know who is guarding the poppy fields now but it ain't the us
 
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kiddiedoc said:
...While needlessly sacrificing American soldiers and surrendering an army's worth of weapons to terrorists.
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Yeah I’m not following the logic being posted.

If my wife ask me to take out the trash, and in doing so I knock over the food she just made on the counter, kick the dogs water bowl, and step on our baby as I’m walking outside, me responding with “Hey. You told me to take out the trash and I did!” Isn’t gonna fly nor should it. The manner in which something gets accomplished matters.
 
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