Gun control debate (merged)

[luthervol]

Link to bulk purchases traveling across state lines?

If your supposition was correct limiting legal gun purchases wouldnt slow them down. I doubt any individual is making bulk purchases everyday and driving into chicago everyday. So all they would have to do is have multiple people make purchases. They could easily stagger them to keep a daily purchase up if that's what they needed.

There are also easy ways to address that.

 

[VolStrom]

What? No one called me out on being wrong. It is ridiculously easy. I never once said it was legal to do it.
Just because there is a law making it illegal doesn't mean that it is still not easy.
You guys make that point constantly.
I'm for better laws. Laws that reduce the ease of illegal activity.

So if it's not hard to break the law, then it's okay?

 

[hog88]

There are also easy ways to address that.

How?

 

[luthervol]

Ooops, guess what.

Reporting Multiple Firearms Sales

Thank you!!!!!!! Finally! Who said you can only lead a horse to water?
Perfect example of a rational and reasonable law. There are a couple of loose ends to that law that can be tied up.

 

[hog88]

Thank you!!!!!!! Finally! Who said you can only lead a horse to water?
Perfect example of a rational and reasonable law. There are a couple of loose ends to that law that can be tied up.

Like what?

 

[luthervol]

Guys, he’s right. Since drunk driving was made illegal decades ago, there has not been anyone killed by a drunk driver.

Such a ridiculous comment.
No one ever thought they would be eliminated entirely; but people with a functioning brain knew it was a reasonable step in reducing the number.

 

[luthervol]

Must be since the cdc includes them in their mortality rate for firearms

No one will ever try to limit alcohol again. You'd think they could apply that to other things

They certainly regulate it and tax the hell out of it.
Maybe that needs to be the gun angle. $300 tax on every gun sold, $2 tax on every round of ammunition sold.

 

[hog88]

They certainly regulate it and tax the hell out of it.
Maybe that needs to be the gun angle. $300 tax on every gun sold, $2 tax on every round of ammunition sold.

Yes, and watch the black market boom.

 

[luthervol]

You know me better . Control the urban people problems and the lefts favorite phrase “ Gun Violence “ will drop dramatically all over the country . Am I wrong ?

Pretty much. But people are certainly the root of the problem - rural and urban.

 

[GroverCleveland]

I'm glad they took the steps necessary to keep it from quadrupling.

I am glad they elected Biden or
inflation would be at 18%;
we would have 400,000 illegals border crossing a month;
gasoline would be $10/gallon;
we would be in the fourth month of a recession instead of just the second;
we would have an idiot VP (oh, wait);
Miami and Manhattan would already be underwater;
polar bears would be extinct;
the world would be ending in five years instead of the ten we have left (going with AOC on this);

 

[luthervol]

Like what?

Limiting the number of guns that can be sold to an individual in a given period of time. (I know - that's the point)
Maybe decrease the current number.
National data base where it's not dealer specific.

 

[luthervol]

So if it's not hard to break the law, then it's okay?

Nope. But more people will break it.

 

[C-south]

I see you are still missing the point.
They should not "legally" sell guns that can be reasonably assumed to have a high probability of then being sold illegally.

 

[hog88]

Limiting the number of guns that can be sold to an individual in a given period of time. (I know - that's the point)
Maybe decrease the current number.
National data base where it's not dealer specific.

How many?
How?
How would that be implemented?

 

[C-south]

Nope. But more people will break it.

Do you feel the same about immigration or just violating an actual citizen’s rights? Maybe you should focus on your beloved gubment enforcing the laws on the books before you try and put more on them.

 

[utvolpj]

They certainly regulate it and tax the hell out of it.
Maybe that needs to be the gun angle. $300 tax on every gun sold, $2 tax on every round of ammunition sold.

The government has plenty of money. Your desire to limit rights based on wealth is interesting though. Can we do it with voting as well?

 

[luthervol]

I am glad they elected Biden or
inflation would be at 18%;
we would have 400,000 illegals border crossing a month;
gasoline would be $10/gallon;
we would be in the fourth month of a recession instead of just the second;
we would have an idiot VP (oh, wait);
Miami and Manhattan would already be underwater;
polar bears would be extinct;
the world would be ending in five years instead of the ten we have left (going with AOC on this);

I think only 4 of those are true.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Like what?

Like making it a felony.

Oh, wait.

 

[luthervol]

How many?
How?
How would that be implemented?

All things that can be negotiated and compromised on by rational and reasonable people.

 

[C-south]

The government has plenty of money. Your desire to limit rights based on wealth is interesting though. Can we do it with voting as well?

That would be brilliant. The less you pay in taxes the more you pay to vote. Rational and reasonable. Maybe some required training as well.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I'm sorry I was so busy and missed out on the fun this afternoon. I think we have a new front-runner for dumbest PF argument of the year.

 

[Rickyvol77]

They certainly regulate it and tax the hell out of it.
Maybe that needs to be the gun angle. $300 tax on every gun sold, $2 tax on every round of ammunition sold.

Lol so poor people shouldn’t be allowed to exercise a Constitutional right?

 

[C-south]

Lol so poor people shouldn’t be allowed to exercise a Constitutional right?

Luther would be fine with a mobile armory going around to “disenfranchised” communities and passing out free guns and ammo to anyone who could pass a background check.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Luther would be fine with a mobile armory going around to “disenfranchised” communities and passing out free guns and ammo to anyone who could pass a background check.

Maybe he’s on to something since it’s mostly poor inner city urbanites committing the majority of gun violence. All public schoolers too

 

[kiddiedoc]

Lol so poor people shouldn’t be allowed to exercise a Constitutional right?

Comedy gold.