Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[PlanetVolunteer]

To continue on the secondary:
Where do you guys seeing the following players in the 2 deep..
McDonald
Rucker
Slaughter
Will be interesting to see where these guys fit w/ the new additions. I’ve been high on Slaughter but for some reason it’s been hit or miss with his playing time. Rucker too.

For Slaughter it depends on what they're doing with Turnage. Hopefully Turnage is about to compete for a starting role at corner.

Otherwise you have Turnage, Slaughter, Wesley Walker, Andre Turrentine and Christian Charles all potential starters at STAR. Feels like most of our talent is there. Most of them can play safety too.

McDonald is firmly in the 2 deep at safety. I think he'd likely take Flowers spot if Flowers is injured. Also Cheyenne Labruzza apparently looked good in the spring.

Rucker is second string at best I think. He looked like he has a long way to go after that Purdue game.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Yeah have to agree with Planet on those 3. Feel like Rucker has plenty of speed...and that's been about it. In HS it was enough to offset his weaknesses.

McDonald seems to be the most complete of the 3 and could play either Safety role as well as STAR, but definitely think he's the first guy in if Tank or Flowers is out. Slaughter is probably next most likely to see reps at S or STAR of the 3 with Rucker being a guy that'll see most his PT on special teams or in late blowouts imo.

If Turnage and/or Charles emerge more as CBs then that might open things up for Rucker potentially at STAR though.

 

[TNHopeful505]

What a talent

Without Josh Dobbs, Butch Jones doesnt make it as long as he did.

 

[bignewt]

Without Josh Dobbs, Butch Jones doesnt make it as long as he did.

Without Tom Brady, Bellichick doesn't win any super bowls.

 

[peaygolf]

Without Tom Brady, Bellichick doesn't win any super bowls.

Without Bellichick, Brady doesn’t wi……….oops. Nevermind

 

[MadWorld]

Kinda like Colton Jumper…who just ran INTO blocks, instead of avoiding them. It was like he thought he was a space eating linemen instead of a LB.

It was like playing with 10 defenders when he played. I could hardly stand it. Well most of the time anyway (I know there are a lot of Jumper apologists on here).

 

[#Vol4Life1991]

It was like playing with 10 defenders when he played. I could hardly stand it. Well most of the time anyway (I know there are a lot of Jumper apologists on here).

Yes there are. He wasn’t good at all, but people kept defending him like he was an all-conference performer. We’ve been so bad for so long, I think some don’t know or have forgotten what good football players look like.

 

[volinbama256]

Damn... just gives me the feels... if Hooker could run like this, good LAWD...

 

[pierce60]

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I hope he gets a legitimate shot at starting. He always seemed to be a gamer who just turned it on during live games. I think he could be a good starting QB in the pros.

 

[swchandler1988]

I hope he gets a legitimate shot at starting. He always seemed to be a gamer who just turned it on during live games. I think he could be a good starting QB in the pros.

That’s what Ramon Foster said about him on the Zone last week

 

[franklinpence]

Wait for it.

 

[CABVOL]

What sites do y’all use to get your jersey’s from?

Wish dot com

 

[Volsdeep4]

@Enki_Amenra which betting app was your favorite?

 

[dwaugh]

Wish dot com

 

[UpstateVol613]

 

[Jackcrevol]

what a douche. that is funny.

 

[Orangeredblooded]

what a douche. that is funny.

Is it my imagination that he’s been hopping on the crazy train more as he gets older?

 

[Geaux_Vols]

We are looking at refreshing some of our design work and need some graphic design help. If you have graphic design experience or know someone that does, please email me will@spyresports.com.

We can compensate with tickets, gear, money, whatever you’re interested in. Just looking for some options moving forward.

thanks for the tags, everyone. Will, email sent.

 

[Devo182]

He’s smoking crack.

He may well be smoking crack.

But he's 100% right the game played today is far more optimal. Similar to how football has advanced in just 25 years. Competition has also increased significantly. Went from 2% international to 25%. The pool of talent they're drawing from is vastly larger and thus, greater competition and talent. Other things, like training and nutrition have also made better athletes as well.

No different than comparing the 90s to the 50s. Whole different ballgame for all the same reasons.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

@Enki_Amenra which betting app was your favorite?

Fanduel
Draftkings had better promos, but fanduel app was much better
Twinspires is a decent app, but never bet there. I'm not really sure how Ceasar's and MGM is.

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

I get what you are saying here, and that is certainly one way of tracking the better 3 stars....and seemingly a good way to do so may I add. Some guys do indeed get missed, but normally most of those 3 stars that you speak of have less of a chance of being an immediate contributor vs a high 4 star or 5 star player, which effects quality depth if you have too many of those.

All per CBS article and which service used not defined.

There are a lower percentage of 3 stars each year yes, but look at how many DID compete at a level to get drafted in the first round. Look at the detail to see where they came from. Lots of P5 and G5, the 3 star category needs to be tweeked to accomodate those identifified by the big boys to be players. Of course the detail below shows even bigger misses when they were ranked in the 2k and 3k range or not ranked at all. The three star grouping is just too flawed to take to serious. Lots of the no-brainers in there too....

• 5-stars: 8 USUALLY 25-30 PER YEAR
• 4-stars: 12 USUALLY 250-300 PER YEAR
• 3-stars: 9 USUALLY 700+ PER YEAR
• 2-stars: 1
• 1-star: 0
• Unranked: 2

Here is the detail to back it up....

NFL TEAM
PLAYER SCHOOL STARS RANK (YEAR)

Jacksonville
Travon Walker Georgia 5 22 (2019)

Detroit
Aiden Hutchinson Michigan 4 112 (2018)

Houston
Derek Stingley Jr.LSU 5 3 (2019)

N.Y. Jets
Ahmad Gardner Cincinnati 3 1,672 (2019)

N.Y. Giants
Kayvon Thibodeaux Oregon 5 2 (2019)

Carolina
Ikem Ekwonu NC State 3 612 (2019)

N.Y. Giants
Evan Neal Alabama 5 7 (2019)

Atlanta
Drake London USC 4 247 (2019)

Seattle
Charles Cross Mississippi State 5 27 (2019)

N.Y. Jets
Garrett Wilson Ohio State 5 20 (2019)

New Orleans
Chris Olave Ohio State 3 399 (2018)

Detroit
Jameson Williams Alabama 4 82 (2019)

Philadelphia
Jordan Davis Georgia 3 424 (2018)

Baltimore
Kyle HamiltonNotre Dame 460 (2019)

Houston
Kenyon Green Texas A&M 5 15 (2019)

Washington
Jahan Dotson Penn State 4 192 (2018)

L.A. Chargers
Zion Johnson Boston College n/a n/a (2016)

Tennessee
Treylon Burks Arkansas 4 103 (2019)

New Orleans
Trevor Penning Northern Iowa n/a n/a (2017)

Pittsburgh
Kenny Pickett Pittsburgh 3 738 (2016)

Kansas City
Trent McDuffie Washington 4 126 (2019)

Green Bay
Quay Walker Georgia 4 31 (2018)

Buffalo
Kaiir Elam Florida 4 48 (2019)

Dallas
Tyler Smith Tulsa 3 2,417 (2019)

Baltimore
Tyler Linderbaum Iowa 3 409 (2018)

N.Y. Jets
Jermaine Johnson Florida State 3 2,089 (2017)

Jacksonville
Devin Lloyd Utah 3 1,631 (2017)

Green Bay
Devonte Wyatt Georgia 4 278 (2017)

New England
Cole Strange Chattanooga 2 3,084 (2016)

Kansas City
George Karlaftis Purdue 4 59 (2019)

Cincinnati
Daxton Hill Michigan 5 14 (2019)

Minnesota
Lewis Cine Georgia 4 45 (2019)

 

[Devo182]

I thought he was lighter and he carries his weight well.
He can move very well with his size

Twss

 

[SugarCC]

He may well be smoking crack.

But he's 100% right the game played today is far more optimal. Similar to how football has advanced in just 25 years. Competition has also increased significantly. Went from 2% international to 25%. The pool of talent they're drawing from is vastly larger and thus, greater competition and talent. Other things, like training and nutrition have also made better athletes as well.

No different than comparing the 90s to the 50s. Whole different ballgame for all the same reasons.

I agree...different game for different times. Jordan averages 50 in today's game. Only in his era, could he have been held to 30.

 

[YNWAvols]

He may well be smoking crack.

But he's 100% right the game played today is far more optimal. Similar to how football has advanced in just 25 years. Competition has also increased significantly. Went from 2% international to 25%. The pool of talent they're drawing from is vastly larger and thus, greater competition and talent. Other things, like training and nutrition have also made better athletes as well.

No different than comparing the 90s to the 50s. Whole different ballgame for all the same reasons.

I’m not big on these arguments and this is pretty much why. Comparing players from different eras isn’t an apples to apples comparison. The conversations that ensue are typically: person A - you’re stupid, person B - no, you’re stupid.