The ofishal zone devotional thread!

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Behr said:
It's okay for you to be a "smarty pants" but not me? It's not all about you. Well, it's not supposed to be.

You don't like me judging you, why on this earth do you think it's okay to judge me?
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We all make judgements in life..... It's impossible not to. A fella has to be judgemental when making life decisions. If not you will make some really dumb decisions.
Put that in the realm of people and you can make some fair judgements or assumptions. If a fellow say's he is a Christian and openly lives a life of sin, who should I believe, him or the bible? For instance, if a man lives a lifestyle of drunkenness or fornication and says that he's a Christian and the bible says that all drunkards and fornicators are going to hell. Is it judgemental and mean to tell them what the bible says? Should we just sit idly by and let them be deceived?
And I want to be clear that I am not accusing you of either. I don't know what you do. My point is that we all make judgements we should use the bible to make right judgements. After all, God has already made these judgements about what is and isn't sin. The bible is full of such judgements. And Christ will be the only judge that matters.
 
#827
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I am reminded of perhaps my favorite paragraph Washington Irving ever wrote. It's from "The Devil and Tom Walker."

As Tom waxed old, however, he grew thoughtful. Having secured the good things of this world, he began to feel anxious about those of the next. He thought with regret of the bargain he had made with his black friend, and set his wits to work to cheat him out of the conditions. He became, therefore, all of a sudden, a violent church-goer. He prayed loudly and strenuously, as if heaven were to be taken by force of lungs. Indeed, one might always tell when he had sinned most during the week by the clamor of his Sunday devotion. The quiet Christians who had been modestly and steadfastly travelling Zionward were struck with self-reproach at seeing themselves so suddenly outstripped in their career by this new-made convert. Tom was as rigid in religious as in money matters; he was a stern supervisor and censurer of his neighbors, and seemed to think every sin entered up to their account became a credit on his own side of the page. He even talked of the expediency of reviving the persecution of Quakers and Anabaptists. In a word, Tom's zeal became as notorious as his riches.
 
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BigO95 said:
We all make judgements in life..... It's impossible not to. A fella has to be judgemental when making life decisions. If not you will make some really dumb decisions.
Put that in the realm of people and you can make some fair judgements or assumptions. If a fellow say's he is a Christian and openly lives a life of sin, who should I believe, him or the bible? For instance, if a man lives a lifestyle of drunkenness or fornication and says that he's a Christian and the bible says that all drunkards and fornicators are going to hell. Is it judgemental and mean to tell them what the bible says? Should we just sit idly by and let them be deceived?
And I want to be clear that I am not accusing you of either. I don't know what you do. My point is that we all make judgements we should use the bible to make right judgements. After all, God has already made these judgements about what is and isn't sin. The bible is full of such judgements. And Christ will be the only judge that matters.
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Do you understand what is meant in Matthew 7:1.

Do you understand how condescending you come across? I know asking that seems condescending itself, but you don't seem to grasp anything else. It's obvious you can't be told anything because you know it all and believe you're right, when it's not really about being right.

I was in the mood for this earlier, but trying to explain something to someone that is so determined to be right and "teach" me something, that he can't even see what the discussion is really about is exhausting.

You would make an excellent TV preacher.
 
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Behr said:
Do you understand what is meant in Matthew 7:1.

Do you understand how condescending you come across? I know asking that seems condescending itself, but you don't seem to grasp anything else. It's obvious you can't be told anything because you know it all and believe you're right, when it's not really about being right.

I was in the mood for this earlier, but trying to explain something to someone that is so determined to be right and "teach" me something, that he can't even see what the discussion is really about is exhausting.

You would make an excellent TV preacher.
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I truly wish you nothing but God's best.... Good day to you sir
 
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For what's its worth, I believe that. I believe it's because you would feel like you were responsible for it, but I'd still benefit, so thank you.
 
#831
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Behr said:
For what's its worth, I believe that. I believe it's because you would feel like you were responsible for it, but I'd still benefit, so thank you.
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Behr, for what it's worth, the only good thing about me is the Holy Spirit living on the inside of me and what little bit of God's word I've hid in my heart.
If I've ever done anything good, it's because of the goodness and grace of Almighty God.
 
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BigO95 said:
Behr, for what it's worth, the only good thing about me is the Holy Spirit living on the inside of me and what little bit of God's word I've hid in my heart.
If I've ever done anything good, it's because of the goodness and grace of Almighty God.
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I'd guess you're pretty much the same in real life as you are on VN. If so, there's no question that you're not ashamed of your beliefs and in fact proud of them. That's admirable. Lotta people couldn't be that way on an anonymous message board much less in public.

It's obvious to me you just don't understand what I've tried to explain to you and honestly, I should have kept it all to myself.

Thats not saying I was wrong or I'm gonna keep my mouth shut, just acknowledging that I probably should.
 
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Behr said:
I'd guess you're pretty much the same in real life as you are on VN. If so, there's no question that you're not ashamed of your beliefs and in fact proud of them. That's admirable. Lotta people couldn't be that way on an anonymous message board much less in public.

It's obvious to me you just don't understand what I've tried to explain to you and honestly, I should have kept it all to myself.

Thats not saying I was wrong or I'm gonna keep my mouth shut, just acknowledging that I probably should.
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You and I will stand before the same God and give account for our service to him. I make no apologies for who and what I am. I've been serving my Lord Jesus Christ for twenty one years now. Sometimes good and sometimes not so good.
I've worked hard at being a better witness for my King. Wether I've done a good or poor job at it, I'll know on judgement day. One thing for certain is, good or bad, I've been steadily trying to get people to Christ!
God's people in the bible wasn't always received well either. In fact, almost always just the opposite. So in short, I'm gonna keep trying and perhaps I'll get better at it as the years go by.
I've had the privilege and honor to help a few along the way and perhaps a few more before my race is done.
Again Behr, I wish you nothing but God's best!
 
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I was trying to compliment you and leave it alone, but you just can't help yourself. I read that and all I hear is " me me me me I I I I me me me me". You're so wrapped up in YOU It's pathetic. Why do you feel you have to convince me and or everyone else of your spirituality? God is the only one that matters. I'm telling you dude, you sincerely come across to me as someone desperately trying to convince himself of what he really wants to be.

Gods people in the Bible weren't given a hard time for the same reasons you are and it's laughable that you use that in this conversation. Even more evidence that you have no clue as to what I've been trying to explain to you. Your arrogance is a bigger issue than I thought. Let it go. Do whatever you think you need to be doing and don't concern yourself with my opinions or my comments because 1, my opinions don't matter and it's only gonna get worse. I don't enjoy this at all, but if continue I will as well.
 
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Behr said:
I was trying to compliment you and leave it alone, but you just can't help yourself. I read that and all I hear is " me me me me I I I I me me me me". You're so wrapped up in YOU It's pathetic. Why do you feel you have to convince me and or everyone else of your spirituality? God is the only one that matters. I'm telling you dude, you sincerely come across to me as someone desperately trying to convince himself of what he really wants to be.

Gods people in the Bible weren't given a hard time for the same reasons you are and it's laughable that you use that in this conversation. Even more evidence that you have no clue as to what I've been trying to explain to you. Your arrogance is a bigger issue than I thought. Let it go. Do whatever you think you need to be doing and don't concern yourself with my opinions or my comments because 1, my opinions don't matter and it's only gonna get worse. I don't enjoy this at all, but if continue I will as well.
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You think you know way more than you do... Good day
 
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BigO95 said:
You think you know way more than you do... Good day
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I know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about math and you think I'm talking about science and you're so hard headed you look like an idiot. Amazing. It would be comical if it wasn't on the subject it's on.

Good day to you.
 
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Behr said:
I know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about math and you think I'm talking about science and you're so hard headed you look like an idiot. Amazing. It would be comical if it wasn't on the subject it's on.

Good day to you.
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I'm praying for you Behr....
 
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BigO95 said:
I'm praying for you Behr....
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You're condescension is noted. If you understood what all this was about you'd know how condescending it is. Why would you tell me you're praying for me? Why not just pray for me and leave it at that? You're the hypocrite on the street corner Jesus was talking about in Matthew. You can justify it to yourself but Jesus knows your heart better than you do.
 
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Behr said:
You're condescension is noted. If you understood what all this was about you'd know how condescending it is. Why would you tell me you're praying for me? Why not just pray for me and leave it at that? You're the hypocrite on the street corner Jesus was talking about in Matthew. You can justify it to yourself but Jesus knows your heart better than you do.
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Certainly he does... What makes you so arrogant to think that I need your approval for anything? Go ahead and accuse me of being a pharisee and hypocrite if it makes you feel better about yourself. God knows all about you and me both.
You should get right with God before it's too late! You will meet him soon as we all will...
 
#843
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Behr said:
What are you specifically praying for?
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I've asked God for mercy and grace for you and your family. I ask God get you to a place where you can be on his blessing ground. And pray God turn your heart to the things of God!
 
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BigO95 said:
Certainly he does... What makes you so arrogant to think that I need your approval for anything? Go ahead and accuse me of being a pharisee and hypocrite if it makes you feel better about yourself. God knows all about you and me both.
You should get right with God before it's too late! You will meet him soon as we all will...
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It's not my arrogance that thinks you need my approval. Lol, it's your constant replying to everything I say after I've even spelled it out for you. Can't make this up.

How do I need to get right with God? Specifically?
 
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BigO95 said:
I've asked God for mercy and grace for you and your family. I ask God get you to a place where you can be on his blessing ground. And pray God turn your heart to the things of God!
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How do you know I'm not already on his blessing ground and my heart is not on things of God?
 
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BigO95 said:
I've asked God for mercy and grace for you and your family. I ask God get you to a place where you can be on his blessing ground. And pray God turn your heart to the things of God!
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Does it make you feel superior talking to me this way? If you really feel this way don't you think it would be embarrassing for me to talk to me like this?
 
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Behr said:
Does it make you feel superior talking to me this way? If you really feel this way don't you think it would be embarrassing for me to talk to me like this?
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Your conversation speaks volumes... It reveals your heart.
 
#848
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BigO95 said:
Certainly he does... What makes you so arrogant to think that I need your approval for anything? Go ahead and accuse me of being a pharisee and hypocrite if it makes you feel better about yourself. God knows all about you and me both.
You should get right with God before it's too late! You will meet him soon as we all will...
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You saying he needs to get right with God seems awfully judgey, which is not what people are supposed to do.
 
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