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Devo182 said:
"If we can beat Florida and Georgia, there's NO WAY we lose to Vandy"

Or in reverse

"Hell, if we can't even beat Ga St, we have zero chance of winning any SEC games. 0-12 here we come."

#NeverForget 😅🤣
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I had almost suppressed it.....
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Glitch said:
My oldest is as well. Did a campus tour of MTSU this summer. Ready or not.... It is happening.
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No doubt at all. We have been to Tennessee Tech, ETSU, Central Florida and Florida State. Almost definitely will be a state school in Tennessee, but it was fun taking those trips to Florida with her.
 
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butchna said:
As in Dobbs with us and the previously cited Youngs, there’s a difference in OPPORTUNITY when you’re discussing ballcarriers and quarterbacks. Defenses gear up to stop running backs out of set formations. Many many rushing yards by a mobile QB are garnered when plays break down. It’s why I don’t believe that some of the legendary rushing QBs would hold up as full time running backs. They’re different positions and should be honored as such.
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I think that's fair, but Pat White (the QB I'm talking about) wasn't exploiting broken down passing plays to get the majority of his rushing yards. QB in an option system like Crouch at Nebraska or Nesbitt at Georgia Tech also aren't exploiting broken down passing plays.

Dobbs and Vince Young (both names you brought up that I didn't) fit the narrative you're making, and I agree for those examples. But the QBs I've mentioned don't since their offensive systems rarely passed.
 
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drvenner said:
No doubt at all. We have been to Tennessee Tech, ETSU, Central Florida and Florida State. Almost definitely will be a state school in Tennessee, but it was fun taking those trips to Florida with her.
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Yeah, I'll bet. My daughter intends to be a teacher, so while she wanted to go to UT it wasn't worth the money for the career. Trying to teach her CBA and that you can make a living as a teacher, but it is a lot harder if you have a huge weight in the form of student loan debt hanging around your neck. Plus, MTSU is a great school for teachers.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I think that's fair, but Pat White (the QB I'm talking about) wasn't exploiting broken down passing plays to get the majority of his rushing yards. QB in an option system like Crouch at Nebraska or Nesbitt at Georgia Tech also aren't exploiting broken down passing plays.

Dobbs and Vince Young (both names you brought up that I didn't) fit the narrative you're making, and I agree for those examples. But the QBs I've mentioned don't since their offensive systems rarely passed.
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I see your point but if you line up any or your examples as a running back? They don’t net half as many yards. The OPTION of pitching or directly handing off the ball kept defenses tentative in those wishbone and today’s heavy run focused spreads. It’s not being a straight up running back.
 
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Glitch said:
Yeah, I'll bet. My daughter intends to be a teacher, so while she wanted to go to UT it wasn't worth the money for the career. Trying to teach her CBA and that you can make a living as a teacher, but it is a lot harder if you have a huge weight in the form of student loan debt hanging around your neck. Plus, MTSU is a great school for teachers.
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I love the area. I think we will likely visit MTSU this Fall.
 
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pierce60 said:
SIAP…the guy talking is the only be who founded Rivals and 247sports and sold them for Scrooge McDuck money. He also founded On3.

Very interesting what he has to say about Nico.

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I heard this live coming home yesterday afternoon. I'm really happy with what we got. Wouldn't trade him, he's tailor made for what we want to do.
 
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BigSteve09 said:
Huge piece that drops every year. Signifies the season growing closer, also an excellent predictor of the National Champion. Looks like we are one Top-10-ish class away from being on this list next year. Need to string a couple of Top 10 classes together to get into that 50%+ group, which we are on a great trajectory to do. As you can see, the teams that have won with 50-70%, as opposed to dominant Bama/UGA teams, has been lead by an elite QB. We have an elite QB coming in. Couple more classes and an elite Nico could mean Championship hopes soon!







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Still remember when we were just 1 class away under Pruitt 😑

Soo close.

At this point we'd need to land nothing but 4/5s for the rest of this class to join that group next year.

Seems more likely if we can land in the ~55% range the next 2 or 3 classes. Unfortunately the 2020 class drops off after next year and '21 and '22 weren't very good in that regard - about 33% bluechips.
 
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TheRain said:
A&M and Texas... What a pair.

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I'm confused..."to not attend Texas A&M at the end of July"?

Are they talking 2022 recruits not showing up to play this season and switch schools? Or 2023 recruits not verbally committing to A&M?

Because the former would be freakin hilarious to see 😅 Jimbo and Saban would be back to WWIII.
 
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butchna said:
I see your point but if you line up any or your examples as a running back? They don’t net half as many yards. The OPTION of pitching or directly handing off the ball kept defenses tentative in those wishbone and today’s heavy run focused spreads. It’s not being a straight up running back.
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I'll agree their production was helped tremendously by the threat of the pass or pitch. I'm not sure of how effective any of them would be as pure RBs. In the HS game the best player on your team usually ends up at QB, so there's a chance quite a few QBs that never panned out were playing out of position.

Jennings is a great example, NFL level WR...played QB in HS and almost did here. Imagine if he had been able to start his HS career at the position he ended up making it to the NFL at, probably has a far better career here and gets drafted.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I'll agree their production was helped tremendously by the threat of the pass or pitch. I'm not sure of how effective any of them would be as pure RBs. In the HS game the best player on your team usually ends up at QB, so there's a chance quite a few QBs that never panned out were playing out of position.

Jennings is a great example, NFL level WR...played QB in HS and almost did here. Imagine if he had been able to start his HS career at the position he ended up making it to the NFL at, probably has a far better career here and gets drafted.
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Then we’re not really disagreeing with the basic tenet. Not arguing these types importance to the rushing attack of their offenses. They can be the number one factor and still not qualify as their best RUNNING BACK. As far as Jennings, he was never going to be a QB at UT with a unique double threat like Dobbs in front of him.
 
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butchna said:
Then we’re not really disagreeing with the basic tenet. Not arguing these types importance to the rushing attack of their offenses. They can be the number one factor and still not qualify as their best RUNNING BACK. As far as Jennings, he was never going to be a QB at UT with a unique double threat like Dobbs in front of him.
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Yeah, and my mention of Pat White wasn't to say he was their best RB it was more to say that Slaton's success GREATLY benefitted from being in the same backfield with White (same could be said the other way).

When I think of best RB I usually want a guy that got his, did it for more than just a season and was never a 2nd option. It's why LT at TCU is a no brainer and a huge miss by that Twitter graph creator.

Cause when LT was there he was TCU football and even with that being the case still got his despite facing defenses trying to shut him down every week.
 
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VolFanNC09 said:
That’s kind of crazy, it’s not who is more talented, it is who was more productive. Between LT and Zach Evans there isn’t a comparison.
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Picking Evans over LT for this reasoning (which is wrong) is like picking Tiyon Evans or Bryce Brown over Jamal Lewis, Travis Stephens, Chuck Webb, or Alvin Kamara.
 
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Glitch said:
Yeah, I'll bet. My daughter intends to be a teacher, so while she wanted to go to UT it wasn't worth the money for the career. Trying to teach her CBA and that you can make a living as a teacher, but it is a lot harder if you have a huge weight in the form of student loan debt hanging around your neck. Plus, MTSU is a great school for teachers.
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As a teacher, I suggest having her try and do something else before becoming a teacher. Teachers right out of school do a lot of harm without meaning to. Of course I'm talking middle and high school because that's my experience. If she wants to do elementary that's different. I suggest this because age has a huge impact on how the students, and other faculty, views the straight out of school teacher. They normally have the worst classroom management because they do the horribly suggested management techniques and try and be too friendly with the students. It really is hard for the students to view them as a teacher. Once again this is from middle and and high school experience and I can't say the same for elementary because I have not taught elementary and do not know the dynamics. That's an entirely different can of worms. I'm not saying don't become a teacher I'm saying get life experience before becoming a teacher
 
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Glitch said:
Yeah, I'll bet. My daughter intends to be a teacher, so while she wanted to go to UT it wasn't worth the money for the career. Trying to teach her CBA and that you can make a living as a teacher, but it is a lot harder if you have a huge weight in the form of student loan debt hanging around your neck. Plus, MTSU is a great school for teachers.
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Another thing, idk the history of MTSU, but ETSU was a teacher college for the first 50 years of it's existence
 
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