Top Ten

[orange54]

Question. It seems to me if we can recruit a top ten class every year we can compete at the highest level. What do you think?

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Question. It seems to me if we can recruit a top ten class every year we can compete at the highest level. What do you think?

Over time it has been shown that consistent Top 10-15 classes every year is what you need to have a chance at the natty, however unlike Clemson or Oklahoma some other teams that can recruit like that and reasonably get in the playoff we have to get past Alabama and Georgia, who consistently recruit in the Top 3 or 4 every year (in Bama's case since Saban has been there in Georgia's since Kirby has been there) LSU is another often time Top 5 recruiting team, rarely outside of the Top 10. A&M is asserting themselves with Top 10 classes also the last couple of years and the number 1 class last year. The SEC is a tough row to hoe, not that this should surprise anyone.

 

[MontyPython]

Question. It seems to me if we can recruit a top ten class every year we can compete at the highest level. What do you think?

I'd go with we'd be a top ten team.

 

[peaygolf]

Only if said players pan out.

 

[EconVol92]

Never forget that the majority of NFL players were 3 star recruits in college.

Development is huge in college and the 5 star bust is not that uncommon.

 

[sunnyvol79]

We aren’t beating Bama and Georgia anytime soon regardless if we pull a top ten class this year and next year but we can and should beat Florida.

 

[volfanstuckinga]

Never forget that the majority of NFL players were 3 star recruits in college.

Development is huge in college and the 5 star bust is not that uncommon.

By all means go look at the last 8-10 national champions and tell me how many 3* they had making a huge impact vs 4* and 5*.....there is a REASON the same teams are there year in and year out

 

[volfanstuckinga]

We aren’t beating Florida and Georgia anytime soon regardless if we pull a top ten class this year and next year but we can and should beat Florida.

I think you misspelled Alabama with F-L-O-R-I-D-A

 

[sunnyvol79]

We aren’t beating Bama and Georgia anytime soon regardless if we pull a top ten class this year and next year but we can and should beat Florida.

 

[sunnyvol79]

I think you misspelled Alabama with F-L-O-R-I-D-A

My goof

 

[JFBanicki]

With NIL changing the recruiting landscape, UGA and Bama are struggling to get dominant classes. Just look at the ‘23 class, they have a combined 3 5*. At this point in previous years they’d each have at least that. Another look at the 23 class shows those top players are being spread out much more than they had in the last 20 years.
Getting a top 10 class and utilizing the portal properly will most definitely mean a great chance to compete for the title in the coming years.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Never forget that the majority of NFL players were 3 star recruits in college.

Development is huge in college and the 5 star bust is not that uncommon.

That's because there are WAY more 3 stars every year than 5 stars and 4 stars. There are usually 30-35 five stars, 250-300 four stars and over 1,000 three stars every year. 20 years of data has shown that the odds of a 5 star making the NFL are higher than a 4 star and a 3 star's odds and the odds of a 4 star making the NFL are higher than a 3 star's odds. Absolutely no one argues that the recruiting rankings are infallible, i.e. that every 5 star turns out to be good or that no 3 star can have a great NFL career, but two decades worth of data shows the rankings are valid and the consistently good teams have highly ranked players. You are pretty much always going to be better off with a class of 25 four stars, than a class of 25 three stars.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

With NIL changing the recruiting landscape, UGA and Bama are struggling to get dominant classes. Just look at the ‘23 class, they have a combined 3 5*. At this point in previous years they’d each have at least that. Another look at the 23 class shows those top players are being spread out much more than they had in the last 20 years.
Getting a top 10 class and utilizing the portal properly will most definitely mean a great chance to compete for the title in the coming years.

I wouldn't conclude any of that on July 8th, both Bama and UGA are currently ranked in the Top 10, have high per commit player averages and are in it for alot of uncommitted highly ranked players.

 

[OrangeBeachVol]

With NIL changing the recruiting landscape, UGA and Bama are struggling to get dominant classes. Just look at the ‘23 class, they have a combined 3 5*. At this point in previous years they’d each have at least that. Another look at the 23 class shows those top players are being spread out much more than they had in the last 20 years.
Getting a top 10 class and utilizing the portal properly will most definitely mean a great chance to compete for the title in the coming years.

I have been hoping the portal - NIL would be a factor in leveling the recruiting playing field so other teams could have a chance to make up some ground on the Bama / GA's. It was never going to happen under the old rules. Hope things do change then some good will come out of all this chaos.

 

[ZippyMorocco]

That's because there are WAY more 3 stars every year than 5 stars and 4 stars. There are usually 30-35 five stars, 250-300 four stars and over 1,000 three stars every year. 20 years of data has shown that the odds of a 5 star making the NFL are higher than a 4 star and a 3 star's odds and the odds of a 4 star making the NFL are higher than a 3 star's odds. Absolutely no one argues that the recruiting rankings are infallible, i.e. that every 5 star turns out to be good or that no 3 star can have a great NFL career, but two decades worth of data shows the rankings are valid and the consistently good teams have highly ranked players. You are pretty much always going to be better off with a class of 25 four stars, than a class of 25 three stars.

60% of 5 stars are drafted. 3% of 3 stars are drafted.

 

[GoVols64]

You can beat anyone on any given day with a top 10 class. Comes down to match-ups, coaching and scheme. You saw Alabama lose to some teams with inferior talent because they were able to attack areas of weakness of the team. Now, if you want to be the favorite or at least a coin flip you need to recruit top 5 consistently. This raises the level of competition in practice and makes guys fight for playing time. This is why Bama, OSU, Clemson etc. tend to be so good from top to bottom.

The top 5 recruiting classes also tend to have the one or two players that are the difference in tight games. They are the best athlete on the field and transcend scheme or matchup. They are just the "X-Factor" that make big plays in big games.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

60% of 5 stars are drafted. 3% of 3 stars are drafted.

A lot of drafting 5 * players and success depends on what positions they play. QBs, DE-DL, and WRs give you the best opportunity to win important games and there are not a lot of those guys at the 5* level.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Question. It seems to me if we can recruit a top ten class every year we can compete at the highest level. What do you think?

Have you ever considered coaching college football?

 

[DaddyChad]

It’s really hard to judge on kids star levels bc stars get adjusted. Say a kid is three stars; well statistically yeah that kid doesn’t have a great chance of being drafted. If he commits to a college like say Maryland does his star rating get adjusted? If he commits to Bama or Ohio State what about then?

There is a reason why the same teams rank at the top consistently of recruiting. It’s because ratings get adjusted. There’s plenty of elite five star kids that are easier to eval and are going to jump off the page at scouts but three stars at elite programs are going to be bumped upwards. Best gauge to know if we’re recruiting well is to look at who we beat out for a player.

 

[KoachKrab127]

Never forget that the majority of NFL players were 3 star recruits in college.

Development is huge in college and the 5 star bust is not that uncommon.

Especially for us. We have had so many 5 star busts over the years, it’s unbelievable. I think that mostly has to do with poor coaching.

 

[ZippyMorocco]

A lot of drafting 5 * players and success depends on what positions they play. QBs, DE-DL, and WRs give you the best opportunity to win important games and there are not a lot of those guys at the 5* level.

UGA's 5 stars in 2021
QB - 2
RB - 2
TE - 2
WR - 1
DL - 2
ILB - 2
OLB - 3
CB - 2

 

[SoddyAllVol]

We aren’t beating Bama and Georgia anytime soon regardless if we pull a top ten class this year and next year but we can and should beat Florida.

I would almost be willing to wager we get one of them this year. Almost.

 

[orangemadam]

NOPE

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

Never forget that the majority of NFL players were 3 star recruits in college.

Development is huge in college and the 5 star bust is not that uncommon.

There are far more 3stars that make it to the NFL because there are many far mote 3 stars than 4 or 5. Not because they are more likely to help you win at the college level.

I do agree that development is key though. However 4 and 5 stars typically have a higher ceiling to develop to than the vast majority of 3 stars.

 

[dduncan4163]

We aren’t beating Bama and Georgia anytime soon regardless if we pull a top ten class this year and next year but we can and should beat Florida.

That UGA game will be closer than you think. There is a talent gap still but Heup does more with less. Not saying we beat UGA but it will be a 4 quarter game this year mark my words.