9 Wins?

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#76
SoddyAllVol said:
Freezing cold take
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Its the truth though. I respect the sunshine pumpers who choose to be optimistic in the face of reality but I'm just not wired that way. I prefer to look at situations as they are and adjust my expectations accordingly. Looking at this team, I honestly see 7-5. We havent addressed our defensive needs in a significant enough way to expect any kind of leap in success over last season. And I cannot use the rationale of "Well if we stay healthy..." because we dont! In most seasons we lose important players to injury. Thats just the nature of the sport and we never seem to have the quality depth on our roster to weather it.
 
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It’s about the Jimmies and Joes more than the x’s and o’s. Who wins the most? Teams who get the best players.
 
#81
#81
VFL-82-JP said:
Here's the fun thing: sooner or later, he's gonna be right.

Let's together hope it is this year, huh?

Go Vols!
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It's been how long since we only lost one game? And how many times in the last 80 have we only lost one? We could all be dead before it happens again.
 
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volfanhill said:
It's been how long since we only lost one game? And how many times in the last 80 have we only lost one? We could all be dead before it happens again.
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We've had seasons of one or zero losses 28 times in our history. Out of 130 seasons. 21.5% of our seasons.

It'll happen again.

Especially when you're landing 5 star QB's and offensive linemen.
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
We've had seasons of one or zero losses 28 times in our history. Out of 130 seasons. 21.5% of our seasons.

It'll happen again.

Especially when you're landing 5 star QB's and offensive linemen.
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I agree it will happen again. Doesn't mean it will be in the next 50 years. Plus it's been a ton less common in the modern era.
 
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The only reason I’m higher on this team than I probably should be is because of the QB. HH5 is the equalizer. I don’t think the team defensively improved that much at all, unless Baron and Young step it up big time. 10 wins is there for the taking, I’m telling you. Will we get there? Not willing to go there yet. I’m still thinking 8 or 9. 10 can be done, but we’re just going to have to deliver in all the close games like Ole Piss did last year.
 
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volfanhill said:
It's been how long since we only lost one game? And how many times in the last 80 have we only lost one? We could all be dead before it happens again.
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Sure, it could take 50 years. Or it could be in two years. That's part of the fun of anticipating it. Nationdom is fine, he's a loyal fan with a good heart.
 
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NeverWe'llSever said:
The only reason I’m higher on this team than I probably should be is because of the QB. HH5 is the equalizer. I don’t think the team defensively improved that much at all, unless Baron and Young step it up big time. 10 wins is there for the taking, I’m telling you. Will we get there? Not willing to go there yet. I’m still thinking 8 or 9. 10 can be done, but we’re just going to have to deliver in all the close games like Ole Piss did last year.
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I'm certainly hopeful about out the offense. But its not like Georgia, Florida, and Alabama didn't know how to stop HH and Huepel's offense last year. Plus South Carolina seemed to have us figured out by the 2nd half as well and now with a year's worth of film to study, they'll be even more prepared. Anybody who thinks this offense putting up high numbers against the teams that count is just a given, they werent paying attention last year.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I'm certainly hopeful about out the offense. But its not like Georgia, Florida, and Alabama didn't know how to stop HH and Huepel's offense last year. Plus South Carolina seemed to have us figured out by the 2nd half as well and now with a year's worth of film to study, they'll be even more prepared. Anybody who thinks this offense putting up high numbers against the teams that count is just a given, they werent paying attention last year.
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I think the folks who aren't paying attention are those who believe Heupel's offense isn't up to competing with the best teams in the SEC--and, so, the nation.

Even against Georgia's defense, which was historically great--I mean, seven of the eleven starters were drafted into the NFL after the season ended, five of them in the first round--even against that semi-pro defense, we scored points. Not our usual 40, but more than anyone they played not named Bama. And in the national title game, Bama's offense scored 18 points on the Dawgs defense...we scored 17 in our match with them.

There will never be another defense like the one UGa fielded in 2021. It was all the planets aligning with a blood moon and a solar eclipse and Halley's comet flying by, all at once. It will never be seen again.

But our offense will be back again this fall. Even better than last year.

Yeah, there's no reason to fear our ability to score points on even the best teams in the SEC. The only question is whether our defense can get enough stops and takeaways to provide the margin of victory.

Go Vols!


p.s. The average score in college football today is 30.04 points. Call it 30. If you score more than 30 consistently, you're very likely to win more games than you lose. We scored more than 30 points nine times in 2021. Seven of the nine games, we scored more than 40. Including against those Gamecocks you seem worried about; scored 45 there. In fact, the margin of victory of that game was almost 30. Heh. Go Vols!
 
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SoddyAllVol said:
Freezing cold take
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Freezing cold takes as I understand them are takes that have been proven wrong by events. This one hasn't yet. This take is more pessimistic than mine but we don't yet know that it's wrong anymore than we know Nationdom's standard 12-0 prediction for 2022 is wrong. We may view it as a near certainty but we don't know they are wrong yet.

Look at some of Nationdom or Orange Defense's past predictions for examples of freezing cold takes. Here's one:

Pruitt is the most innovative football coach on defense
 
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Last time we won 9 regular seasons 2007
Won back to back 9 counting Bowl 2015&16
Worst 4 years IMO 1977-1980-21 total W’s
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Best 4 years IMO …1995-1998-45 total W’s
 
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8-4 with losses to Kentucky,Bama, Georgia and LSU. We win our bowl game this time to finish with 9 wins which is a two game improvement in wins over last season and we also finally beat Florida.
 
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sunnyvol79 said:
8-4 with losses to Kentucky,Bama, Georgia and LSU. We win our bowl game this time to finish with 9 wins which is a two game improvement in wins over last season and we also finally beat Florida.
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4-4 in conference is not improvement.
 
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tnutater said:
4-4 in conference is not improvement.
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It would be though, because if we only lost to those 4 we are probably Outback or Gator Bowl bound, where we catch a B1G team and beat them, and therefore would sport a 6-4 record against P5 competition, whereas last year we were 4-6 (which was an improvement over the 3-7 the year before).
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
It would be though, because if we only lost to those 4 we are probably Outback or Gator Bowl bound, where we catch a B1G team and beat them, and therefore would sport a 6-4 record against P5 competition, whereas last year we were 4-6 (which was an improvement over the 3-7 the year before).
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I think tnutater is right. It's really not a meaningful improvement.

8-4 (4-4) in 2022 after 7-5 (4-4) in 2021 is this: instead of barely losing to Pitt, we beat them. That's it. That's the diffference.

Pitt isn't any part of our goal. Sure, sure, we want to win every game. And if we were at the point of competing for a spot in the CFP, winning out of conference would be almost as important as winning in conference.

But we're not there yet.

For now, our #1 goal is to win the East. That's our next step forward. Flipping a (barely) L to a (barely) W against Pitt doesn't help.

So I'm with him; it's really not an improvement. Not what we need. We need 5-3 or better in the SEC.
 
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tnutater said:
4-4 in conference is not improvement.
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But getting some payback on Pitt and especially beating Florida would be huge for the program going forward. We def aren’t beating Bama and Georgia and I’m not confident we can go into Tiger stadium and get a win although we have a better chance at stealing a win against them than Georgia or Bama. I think we slip up against either SC or Kentucky so I went with Kentucky who I think will be pretty good again this season. I would be satisfied with a 9-4 season with a bowl win and beating Florida. That’s a definite improvement in year 2 with Heupel
 
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7-5 guys. Just prepare yourselves. And I'm not saying that's a red flag for CJH either! Not every successful program is built on a meteoric trajectory of wins and losses from one season to the next. Saban's record his first 3 years at Michigan State was 6-5-1, 6-6, and 7-5.
 
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sunnyvol79 said:
But getting some payback on Pitt and especially beating Florida would be huge for the program going forward. We def aren’t beating Bama and Georgia and I’m not confident we can go into Tiger stadium and get a win although we have a better chance at stealing a win against them than Georgia or Bama. I think we slip up against either SC or Kentucky so I went with Kentucky who I think will be pretty good again this season. I would be satisfied with a 9-4 season with a bowl win and beating Florida. That’s a definite improvement in year 2 with Heupel
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I am a Vol fan that will believe a win over the Gators when I see it.
I am a Vol fan not impressed with a Pitt win and a win over a bottom tier big ten team in a crap bowl. In fact, some Vol fans were concerned we could not beat Pitt and Purdue last season seeing it as a possible Red Flag. Some might question the fact that we did not beat a team with a pulse or winning conference record last season.
I am a Vol fan that expects a 5-3 conference record as proof of improvement.
I am a Vol fan that demands an undefeated OOC slate. I do not care about winning or losing a crap meaningless bowl. My hope for bowl games of that type is that the players have the time of their lives with the experience.
 
#100
#100
unfrozencvmanvol said:
It would be though, because if we only lost to those 4 we are probably Outback or Gator Bowl bound, where we catch a B1G team and beat them, and therefore would sport a 6-4 record against P5 competition, whereas last year we were 4-6 (which was an improvement over the 3-7 the year before).
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One more conference win last season was an improvement over conehead.
Not something to brag about if you think about it.
 
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