War in Ukraine

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LouderVol said:
Kyiv beaches? The river?

So either this tweet is bs, or the russians must not be punishing Ukraine hard enough where the civilians still feel free to go about their lives.
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Remember, Russia had a "tactical retreat" from Kyiv when they couldn't take it in 3 days. During that retreat they committed the most war crimes on the European continent since Yugoslavia broke up. Now they have focused on controlling the area they helped to steal in 2014..

3 days turned into 100+. Most Ukrainians know Russia ain't gonna make it past the eastern front.
 
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VolStrom said:
How do think this is going to end?
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Ukraine losing land but joining EU/NATO.

I think there will be a "Minsk 3" type agreement that lasts for a little while before both sides go back to shelling each other. Could kinda see a east vs west Ukraine situation like N and S Korea, Or Taiwan and West Taiwan developing. The big parties sign peace deals, but the split country stays at war with each other over a not-so-demilitrized DMZ.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Apparently that 40 billion isn't working out too well either. I'm sure Zelensky will demand 40 billion more. Maybe that extra 40 billion will finally bring Russia to its knees.
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Just like another week will bring Ukraine to its knees. There has been a bunch of cat fights in this thread but havent seen you drop news on the newest big encirclement the western media wont talk about.
 
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This an interesting good news / bad news article. Great that everyone is aware that logistics is perhaps the most important part of the battlefield. But the message in this one paragraph says we are so screwed.

Beyond concerns about contested logistics, Hicks there’s a “strong business case” for the Pentagon’s efforts to adopt electric vehicles as the car industry moves in that direction. While “not an overnight issue,” DoD is motivated at a strategic level to “free that tether to fossil fuel.”
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How the hell do they think we'll recharge electric vehicles in the battlefield? Even supposing the military gets a mini-reactor program going; there's the timely charging issue - and the reactors aren't even in production. If we aren't prepositioning fuel in strategically safe but near the battlefield location, we are no better off than the Russians on their quest for Kiev. Amateurs running the Pentagon. Last time we had a strong business leader running things (a guy named McNamara) we lost a war, racked up a lot of unnecessary casualties, set back the military a decade or two, and turned the country into a hand wringing pansy land.

Russia-Ukraine war is teaching the Pentagon a lesson about the Pacific
 
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Paper_Towel said:
He gets great combat footage of Russians fighting Casper in his empty houses.
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Well, where are the Western media/reporters? Drinking lattes in Kyiv and Lviv while the real fighting is going on in Donbas?

Your beef should be with Western media for not being present and relying on the Kyiv govt for info.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Now keep in mind that the narrative is that the Russians are bombing the country into the Stone Age.
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The narrative is that Ukraine is still fighting in a war that Russia was suppose to have won in a week. Since the lines are still fluid the insurgency hasn't even begun yet. Russia needs to be prepared for a slow bleed. News of sappers and guerrillas will be showing up in your feed soon.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
The narrative is that Ukraine is still fighting in a war that Russia was suppose to have won in a week. Since the lines are still fluid the insurgency hasn't even begun yet. Russia needs to be prepared for a slow bleed. News of sappers and guerrillas will be showing up in your feed soon.
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Insurgencies are the wars you can't win even after you won. The gift that keeps on giving ... Afghanistan (x2 - really all throughout history), Vietnam, ... Almost like a Hotel California where you can enter and never leave unless you really do cut your losses and just go. Russia will learn the lesson all over again in Ukraine if they blunder into a partial "win" and hang around. Russia probably should cut it's losses, give up Ukraine. and go home. Crimea could be at risk if it wasn't such a Russian infested playground - it's really the only warm resort spot they've ever had.
 
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LouderVol said:
Just like another week will bring Ukraine to its knees. There has been a bunch of cat fights in this thread but havent seen you drop news on the newest big encirclement the western media wont talk about.
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I never said Ukraine will be brought to their knees in a week.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Well, where are the Western media/reporters? Drinking lattes in Kyiv and Lviv while the real fighting is going on in Donbas?

Your beef should be with Western media for not being present and relying on the Kyiv govt for info.
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Whenever actual journalists get close your invading asshat homies shoot them moe! I wonder why the invading bastards don’t shoot Lancaster? 🤡

Risk for Media in Ukraine Remains High
 
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AM64 said:
Insurgencies are the wars you can't win even after you won. The gift that keeps on giving ... Afghanistan (x2 - really all throughout history), Vietnam, ... Almost like a Hotel California where you can enter and never leave unless you really do cut your losses and just go. Russia will learn the lesson all over again in Ukraine if they blunder into a partial "win" and hang around. Russia probably should cut it's losses, give up Ukraine. and go home. Crimea could be at risk if it wasn't such a Russian infested playground - it's really the only warm resort spot they've ever had.
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The difference between Afghanistan (for both Russia and the US) and Vietnam, Iraq. etc is that Donbas and southern Ukraine are their people with shared interests and culture.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The difference between Afghanistan (for both Russia and the US) and Vietnam, Iraq. etc is that Donbas and southern Ukraine are their people with shared interests and culture.
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If they put on a Russian uniform they might even share a cemetery plot with them.
 
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Mexico President Slams "Immoral" NATO Proxy War in Ukraine | ZeroHedge

López Obrador didn't elaborate on how, but fair to say a peaceful resolution would have centered on the negotiation of:

  • Some form of independence for the eastern Ukraine provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk
  • A Ukraine government pledge that it will not join NATO
  • Ukraine's recognition that Crimea is now part of Russia
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U.S.-NATO policy is tantamount to saying, “I’ll supply the weapons, and you supply the dead," said López Obrador. "It is immoral.”
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Now keep in mind that the narrative is that the Russians are bombing the country into the Stone Age.
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Only the towns that "asked for liberation"..

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