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He is being recruited. I don’t know if NIL is going to be a factor or not. If you do know for a fact that it is, I would love to see proof of it.
Has NIL been MENTIONED in his recruiting thread…and recently? Do I really need to repost the entire thing?
 
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He is being recruited. I don’t know if NIL is going to be a factor or not. If you do know for a fact that it is, I would love to see proof of it.
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Ok.
1) What would be "proof "?

2) Why show it if you're the recruit. Can you imagine ow many people will come out of nowhere bothering them...
 
This might sound strange, but it just dawned on me that not everyone is a lifelong Vols fan. I kinda assumed that, as a kid, you liked them or you grew up with UT fans. I just saw someone mention they became a fan in Sept. 2019.

I grew up just across the river from Neyland. My grandma lived off Martin Mill pk, next to Fleniken elementary. Every football Saturday, we'd climb the hill behind Fleniken and watch for the fireworks after a score.

The old man, who lived on top of the hill, would always have John Ward playing. We'd build dirt jumps in the woods next to his house and ride the trails while the broadcast aired. Whenever we scored, we'd know it. The radio excitment, then hearing "Go Vols" being yelled inside & outside houses having game day bbq's up and down the street, and seeing or hearing the fireworks exploding. . . I was hooked early, as far back as I can remember.

When/why did you become a Vols fan?
I became a Vol fan when my great grandfather got a job with the TVA in Memphis after returning from the war. He moved the family from Louisiana. For two years they lived in Knoxville while he worked to build the Kingston Steam Plant. My grandfather was in 7th grade, and they lived in the Fulton area at the bottom of the ridge that has all the cell towers on it. In those 2 years he spent in Knoxville as a kid he watched Neyland's teams play several times. He was hooked. They moved back to Memphis when the smokestacks on the plant were completed. He raised his kids to be Vol fans and my dad earned a wrestling scholarship (the program was a casualty of Title IX after his redshirt freshman year and he never got to represent the university. He turned down Virginia Tech to stay at UT and finish his degree). I was born in orange. Hardly considered applying to other schools.
 
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Your the lawyer but to my knowledge "class actions" are when plaintiffs choose to join together. You're saying defendants can FORCE plaintiffs to sue together? In the same jurisdiction?

I am vastly simplifying this because explaining class action would take forever. But I am also not a class-action specialist so if someone out there reading this is, please free to add.

A first player would sue under federal antitrust law. (In practice, the attorney would likely at this point search for more plaintiffs as a way of spreading the cost of litigation plus increasing a higher recovery on any possible award.) Litigation takes years on antitrust issues, so even if no one comes forward at first to join, the publicity around this would likely have others come forward at some point during said litigation.

Assume a 2nd plaintiff comes forward. If it is inside the same district, the court recommends consolidating the cases if it concerns the same question of fact. Courts have limited resources, so they aren't going to spend it on multiple trials concerning the same issue (for many reasons).

If the case is in a different district, the Judicial Panel on Multidistrict Litigation would likely consolidate claims because if they didn't there would be a high possibility of having different districts come to different conclusions on the same question of fact.

This would then become a class action, and class actions are "opt out" once the class has been certified (NCAA S-As would likely be the class). Notice is posted, so then anyone wanting to join the suit or opt out has to do something because the litigation will end with this one class-action case.
 
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Yes.they.have! They used to be able to “regulate” the COMPENSATION a student athlete could receive and remain eligible. And they ruled with an iron fist and wouldn’t even allow athletes to participate in CHARITY events (Steve Alford calendar). Screwed the pooch and remained unbending until they were rendered POWERLESS in that department. They can’t regulate if a player can make $.50 or $50 million. Now academic eligibility is open game but it can’t be tied in with what they receive OUTSIDE THE UNIVERSITY. If they try? Papa Supreme Court will smack em around again. 😎

Simple question. If SCOTUS smacked them around and the NCAA can no longer regulate NIL....what case to you think it was that has that holding?
 
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Ok.
1) What would be "proof "?

2) Why show it if you're the recruit. Can you imagine ow many people will come out of nowhere bothering them...

Proof? Since so many say NIL is such a well established fact and is applicable to every recruit, why wouldn’t proof be easy to provide? Can you definitively say NIL is a major factor here? I know I can’t. No big deal if it is. However just using the NIL thing diminishes the work being done by our coaching and recruiting staff.
 
This might sound strange, but it just dawned on me that not everyone is a lifelong Vols fan. I kinda assumed that, as a kid, you liked them or you grew up with UT fans. I just saw someone mention they became a fan in Sept. 2019.

I grew up just across the river from Neyland. My grandma lived off Martin Mill pk, next to Fleniken elementary. Every football Saturday, we'd climb the hill behind Fleniken and watch for the fireworks after a score.

The old man, who lived on top of the hill, would always have John Ward playing. We'd build dirt jumps in the woods next to his house and ride the trails while the broadcast aired. Whenever we scored, we'd know it. The radio excitment, then hearing "Go Vols" being yelled inside & outside houses having game day bbq's up and down the street, and seeing or hearing the fireworks exploding. . . I was hooked early, as far back as I can remember.

When/why did you become a Vols fan?
Born in Virginia but moved to Knoxville when I was two months old. Used to go to my Granny's a lot and she loved to listen to the games on Saturday. I would help her in the kitchen and we would listen together. She grew up in Alabama, but moved here when she was in high school. I don't remember any specific game but I remember John Ward very well. Her house was on Chapman Highway just past Redbud Drive
 
Proof? Since so many say NIL is such a well established fact and is applicable to every recruit, why wouldn’t proof be easy to provide? Can you definitively say NIL is a major factor here? I know I can’t. No big deal if it is. However just using the NIL thing diminishes the work being done by our coaching and recruiting staff.

Yes, I can definitively say that NIL is a factor for Tate. How big a factor I don’t know but definitely a factor. Asking for proof of this is like asking for proof that water is wet.
 
This might sound strange, but it just dawned on me that not everyone is a lifelong Vols fan. I kinda assumed that, as a kid, you liked them or you grew up with UT fans. I just saw someone mention they became a fan in Sept. 2019.

I grew up just across the river from Neyland. My grandma lived off Martin Mill pk, next to Fleniken elementary. Every football Saturday, we'd climb the hill behind Fleniken and watch for the fireworks after a score.

The old man, who lived on top of the hill, would always have John Ward playing. We'd build dirt jumps in the woods next to his house and ride the trails while the broadcast aired. Whenever we scored, we'd know it. The radio excitment, then hearing "Go Vols" being yelled inside & outside houses having game day bbq's up and down the street, and seeing or hearing the fireworks exploding. . . I was hooked early, as far back as I can remember.

When/why did you become a Vols fan?

Become a Vol fan?
 
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