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Pridedad said:
That's an Engineers way of looking at.

We can figure everything else out while we enjoy the day on the lake drinking beers and eating mayo!
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MoCo_Vol said:
Strange question...do you deal with lower end boats as well? Like the sub 20k style...ya know pleasure boats that'll seat 6-8 adults but are towable for each lake trip?
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I don't We are strictly a custom builder. One engine will cost well over $20K. Also, we haven't built anything under 14'W and 45' long and that's been a very long time. Our boats average 18'W and 70' long now. You may find a small pontoon houseboat that's trailerable from the 80's or 90's in that range. I would look at Suntracker party huts or Catamaran Cruisers. CC used to have a model they marketed as a houseboat that could be used as an RV too called a Lil' Hobo.
 
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sjt18 said:
LOL... Yeah. There is. The ruling was that the NCAA could not prevent a player from profiting from his/her NIL. Period.
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Just absolutely perfect. This is specifically what I am trying to combat against. That was very literally NOT the ruling, in either case.

There isn't a single court in the US that has ruled on the issue of whether the NCAA can restrict its S-As from benefitting off their NIL. Not one. The NCAA changed its rules, that is all that has happened. It feels very much like the NCAA is going reverse course, and get more hand-on - they will place restrictions on NIL at some point in the near future, you can bet on that.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I don't We are strictly a custom builder. One engine will cost well over $20K. Also, we haven't built anything under 14'W and 45' long and that's been a very long time. Our boats average 18'W and 70' long now. You may find a small pontoon houseboat that's trailerable from the 80's or 90's in that range. I would look at Suntracker party huts or Catamaran Cruisers. CC used to have a model they marketed as a houseboat that could be used as an RV too called a Lil' Hobo.
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DeusExMachina said:
If you find yourself near SW Missouri, give a shout. My work has a designated spot for rigs with oversized loads (like that boat will be, figured I would mention that before I catch a TWSS). What lake is she going in??
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Very kind to offer. It's always a challenge to find overnight parking for loads that size. I'll definitely keep that in mind as we plan the route. It's going to Lake Murray.
 
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MKEvol said:
Just absolutely perfect. This is specifically what I am trying to combat against. That was very literally NOT the ruling, in either case.

There isn't a single court in the US that has ruled on the issue of whether the NCAA can restrict its S-As from benefitting off their NIL. Not one. The NCAA changed its rules, that is all that has happened. It feels very much like the NCAA is going reverse course, and get more hand-on - they will place restrictions on NIL at some point in the near future, you can bet on that.
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I wasn't in favor of NIL and still have concerns. But they are going to lose and lose badly if they try. For that reason, they likely won't try. It may not even come down to merit. Remember as brave as the "300" were... as skilled and noble as they were... they were eventually overrun.

These guys don't know what they're talking about... right? Just you.

What is "NIL"? An explanation of college athletics name, image, likeness era
https://www.business2community.com/...keness-nil-ruling-mean-for-marketers-02426156
 
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Well, new dog is off to find a new forever home. He is a good dog but he isn't a good fit for our family right now. Needs a lot of training and exercise that we can't really provide. Good dog for a younger family. My wife is taking him to PAWs right now if anyone in the Murfreesboro area is looking for a med/large sized dog (~75 lbs when grown I would guess) He is a mutt, but we think he is probably at least part pit. Loves to play and was starting to get the hang of fetch a little bit over the weekend. Hard to give up a dog but we aren't the right fit for him.
 
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MKEvol said:
Just absolutely perfect. This is specifically what I am trying to combat against. That was very literally NOT the ruling, in either case.

There isn't a single court in the US that has ruled on the issue of whether the NCAA can restrict its S-As from benefitting off their NIL. Not one. The NCAA changed its rules, that is all that has happened. It feels very much like the NCAA is going reverse course, and get more hand-on - they will place restrictions on NIL at some point in the near future, you can bet on that.
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You've been correct on this, but perhaps undersold the Kavanah opinion that all but invited more litigation against the NCAA on anti-trust. Kavanah argues how preposterous the NCAA's argument is:

Nowhere else in America can businesses get away with agreeing not to pay their workers a fair market rate on the theory that their product is defined by not paying their workers a fair market rate.

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The NCAA is not above the law.
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I'm not sure the attitude you're fighting sees this as settled litigation as much as the feeling that the NCAA is either a lame duck or on a crash course for dismantling, depending on how they choose to navigate from here.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Still some games left, but some suggested the SEC was a bit down this year. They are starting to flex their muscles. UF and Vandy are forcing final games. Arkansas and Ole Miss still have to lose 2, and Auburn is dominating a tough regional. LSU stumbled a bit but can still win final game.
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Not sure whether to like or dislike this.

I want every SEC team to lose.

But I also don't want that to mean the SEC was just a mirage this year, similar to basketball.
 
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MKEvol said:
So what is antitrust law and how does it work in re: the NCAA?
Antitrust law exists to make sure that businesses stay fairly competitive with each other and do not harm consumers by predatory practices. But the NCAA (among other certain industries) is unique. One of the holdings in NCAA v Board of Regents is that the NCAA is unique when dealing with antitrust issues. The NCAA product market is competition, and for that product to exist at all, the court has to allow certain practices that would never be allowed in other industries (mainly as it relates to agreement between competitors). In antitrust parlance, that means the difference between "per se" and "rule of reason" analysis. In rule of reason analysis, the court looks at both the pro-competitive and anti-competitive justifications for any given rule to see what the effect is on the market. The court asks for legitimate business factors for why the rule exists and ultimately will ask one simple question: Is this the least restrictive way to achieve a legitimate business goal.

As I said previously, the NCAA has successfully defended certain rules under 1) health and safety considerations, and 2) amateurism. In the example above, the NCAA may posit that the legitimate business interest for having a time restriction on NIL is so that schools (or collectives acting on behalf of schools) don't just buy players while still allowing those S-As to benefit from their NIL. Schools would still stay fairly competitive, players would still ultimately benefit and it just may well be the least restrictive way to accomplish that goal for the NCAA. A court could legitimately view a time restriction as pro-competitive because schools/proxies can't buy players, and S-As still have their NIL rights. We just don't know yet. Kavanaugh hinted that he would rule against any rule, but the other 8 Justices have remained silent, save for a narrow ruling in Alston (when they could've gone broader) which disallowed a cap on educational benefits above the cost-of attendance.
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Kavanah seemed to be making a point how this would be seen if brought before them. But as you say, who knows? Perhaps the SCOTUS will give the NCAA leeway to make their circular argument, that they would otherwise not allow anyone else.
 
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sjt18 said:
Because lawyers are always right about their opinions on the law, right?

We are "arguing" based on LOTS of opinions about the meaning and implications of the Supreme Court ruling... including many from lawyers.
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i'm not seeing many opinions from him tho? just a pretty beige reading of the law and relevant cases? either way, the authors of those two articles you posted are a content marketer and a website nfl draft director. not to say they're clueless, but the guy coming at this from the law side probably has a pretty decent grip on it, too.
 
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