War in Ukraine

[825VOL]

You say land grab, Russia would say protecting Russians in Donbas and southern Ukraine.

If Russia wanted to just protect Russians, they could have offered them jobs in Russia or pension so that they could leave that terrible Nazi-ridden Ukraine. They didn't do that, Instead, they went in to "liberate" them by forcibly taking Ukrainian territory.

 

[allvol123]

Depends on their strategic goals on how they want to take and control the territory. What does it matter if they took it last month or take it next month?

So much of what you write is so dumb, but that last sentence, oof.

 

[volgr]

That was fast

Meanwhile, as per usual, Cokehead's forces aren't allowing citizens to evacuate from Severodonetsk and using them as human shields. But yeah, they are real worried about war crimes.

 

[lawgator1]

Was his biggest problem when he was president.

I just don't think he wanted to be bothered with the details of who got hired unless the post was one that directly affected him. He delegated the rest of it entirely.

 

[volgr]

Soviet Russia make great victory to unite American people with special military operation in Ukraine.

But lets be real, nothing brings American together like the promise of Russians (or any other generally evil sh!t people) getting new mud holes stomped.

JD Vance just won in Ohio and will likely flip a Senate seat because of his not supporting this latest military misadventure. The American people don't give a crap about Ukraine or Russia for that matter.

 

[volgr]

We need to go back to traditional American values which start with breastfeeding our children. Formula was a departure from traditional family values...basically fast food for babies.

GOP using the baby formula excuse to not support Ukraine is weak and stupid. So, if everything as going smoothly here in America, then you would support this corrupt regime in Ukraine and risk WW3 with Russia? Just be a man, speak the truth and take the rainbow colored arrows from the death cultists.

 

[volgr]

So much of what you write is so dumb, but that last sentence, oof.

What's the hurry?

 

[Hunerwadel]

You say land grab, Russia would say protecting Russians in Donbas and southern Ukraine.

That's bull****.

 

[volgr]

If Russia wanted to just protect Russians, they could have offered them jobs in Russia or pension so that they could leave that terrible Nazi-ridden Ukraine. They didn't do that, Instead, they went in to "liberate" them by forcibly taking Ukrainian territory.

You could make the same ridiculous hypothetical about Ukraine too. There are plenty of things both sides could have done to avert this war.

 

[LouderVol]

The 1914 boundaries were more even set. I do think the breakup of Austria-Hungary was one of the major geopolitical mistakes of the 20th Century. The Balkans has been problematic since then.

Keep in mind that Nationalism really didn't start to even come about until the 19th Century. Prior to that, most of the time, people groups could care less about living together and were more focused on the royal family ruling them. In Austria-Hungary, the Hapsburgs were actually the glue that was keeping the entire thing together as various groups such as the Austrians, Czechs, Slovaks, and Hungarians all still considered the Hapsburgs to be their rulers. Only the Serbs (who recently fell under Hapsburgs) were truly rebellions. Most of the groups were annoyed at the Hungarians, however who misused their autonomy to bully other groups that lived under their rule (Croats for example as Croatia had been part of the Kingdom of Hungary since late Medieval era).

Well. You cant really say the Balkans were fine, and then mention how Austria Hungary got the Serbs. That area has been a pressure cooker since before the Roman's. Too many crossroads.

History has dumped more and more cultures into that small little area. For the longest time it was the Greeks pushing in from the southwest then The Huns pushed a bunch of tribes through that area from the north east, then the collapse of the Byzantines, and rise of the Ottomans pushed more from the south east.

Austria Hungary sorta kinda worked because it had a real strange government set up. Common ruler, common defense, but most matters were left up to the pieces.

 

[825VOL]

You could make the same ridiculous hypothetical about Ukraine too. There are plenty of things both sides could have done to avert this war.

You are right. Ukraine could have just offered all the Russians a bus ticket to Moscow. I am sure that would have prevented Russia from invading them.

 

[LouderVol]

I'm confused. You said Russians and Ukrainians are the same race.

I'm sure you are also willing to share that opinion with some Ukrainian ultranationalists.

Here in America they are the same race, over there everyone gets to be their own race, so idk.

But it's too bad for your red herring I said Russians IN ukraine. No countries borders over there are sacroscant. So pointing out that Poland has a history IN what is now Ukraine, isnt really a "gotcha" for you.

 

[LouderVol]

You say land grab, Russia would say protecting Russians in Donbas and southern Ukraine.

I think Russia would say suppressing Ukrainians in southern Ukraine. Remember Russians were a minority.

 

[volgr]

Well done article on the much ballywhooed river crossing.

Now, what does this tell us.

1) According to the composition of the burned equipment, we see the presence of the Russian and Ukrainian armies, as well as forces of the LPR or DPR. We can no longer write off the entire pile as Russian casualties.

2) As can be seen from photo 5, the path there is well-traveled, which is understandable. After the bridges got blown up, such a convenient crossing place could not go unnoticed by both sides.

3) Thus we come to the most likely version of what happened at the crossing near Belogorovka. Both sides liked the place of the crossing. First the Ukrainians, but the Russian (Allied) forces suffered losses during the crossing as well.

4) The "mix" of equipment and its condition indicates that the sides fought over the crossing for some time (probably about a week) until it fell into the hands of the Allied Forces.

5) This is also indicated by Ukrainian photos and videos taken from a respectful distance. The crossing is clearly not under the control of the Ukrainian forces, otherwise the internet would have been FLOODED by close-ups of corpses and vehicles. They are notoriously prone to TikTok victories.

6) There are no bodies in the shots, which suggests that one of the parties had the opportunity to remove them.

7) The Ukrainian General Staff stated that in the evening of May 11, "The enemy is trying to seize positions on the right bank," and by the next morning "the enemy is crossing the Seversky Donets River to carry out an offensive.”

Later there were reports that Russian troops not only had not retreated from the area, but were expanding the bridgehead. It is difficult to say how large the bridgehead is now, but on May 11, judging by the published satellite images, the Seversky Donets crossing was intact. Right now, fighting is reported on the other side of the river, implying a successful crossing.

It looks like most of the fighting was done by the LPR & DPR in this area, with Russian forces carrying out the river crossing itself.

Two independent private sources on the ground have stated to me that Allied Forces vehicle losses were “around 20” and “fewer than two dozen”, respectively, with casualties between 30 and 50.

 

[volgr]

You are right. Ukraine could have just offered all the Russians a bus ticket to Moscow. I am sure that would have prevented Russia from invading them.

Or they could have got their Nazi element in their military under control and stopped committing war crimes on Russians in the Donbass...but Cokehead had no control over the Nazi element. He was more scared of them than they were of him.

 

[tvolsfan]

Debating setting a Twitter account to make up pro Russian propaganda and see how long it takes before Volgr posts it here.

 

[hog88]

What's the hurry?

Men and material are being wasted, the longer this goes on more men will die/be wounded and more material will be expended.

 

[FLVOL_79]

You could make the same ridiculous hypothetical about Ukraine too. There are plenty of things both sides could have done to avert this war.

Starting with Russia not invading a sovereign country then once realizing they bit off more than they could chew because they are very over-rated, poorly trained, and generally sh!t at fighting, commited war crimes while retreating. Pretty simple.

 

[VolStrom]

Men and material are being wasted, the longer this goes on more men will die/be wounded and more material will be expended.

If the democrats get their way, this war will last decades, so the defense contractors can stuff their mattresses for a generation on the taxpayer dime.

 

[volgr]

Men and material are being wasted, the longer this goes on more men will die/be wounded and more material will be expended.

This is to Russia's advantage. They did the same in Syria. Slow grind until the other side finally breaks.

 

[Septic]

Depends on their strategic goals on how they want to take and control the territory. What does it matter if they took it last month or take it next month?

You have to be chuckling every time you post.

I know I am.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Debating setting a Twitter account to make up pro Russian propaganda and see how long it takes before Volgr posts it here.

As long as you post fantastic sh!t like "Ukrainian Soldiers murder 500 Donbass Babies in Sick Western NATO Death Cult Human Sacrifice to Asmodeus" he'll eat it up like getting a lukewarm bowel of his babushkas borscht recipe on chilly Siberian night in the work camp.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Depends on their strategic goals on how they want to take and control the territory. What does it matter if they took it last month or take it next month?

Russia Strategic Goals = Keep moving the missions goal posts until you finally get that field goal through and claim victory. Akin to lowering a basketball goal so a child can finally make his first basket.

 

[hog88]

This is to Russia's advantage. They did the same in Syria. Slow grind until the other side finally breaks.

A stupid and wasteful way to fight a war.

 

[VolStrom]

As long as you post fantastic sh!t like "Ukrainian Soldiers murder 500 Donbass Babies in Sick Western NATO Death Cult Human Sacrifice to Asmodeus" he'll eat it up like getting a lukewarm bowel of his babushkas borscht recipe on chilly Siberian night in the work camp.

No way you came up with this on your own!