War in Ukraine

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Septic said:
Can you elaborate on the "losing badly" part?

Russia (a so called world super power) positioned it's Army for months to invade and still hasn't conquered a town 100 miles from it's border.

We get that you're a Putin/Russia sycophant, but who are you trying to convince with saying dumb sh*t like this?

It would be like the U.S. preparing for months to invade Mexico and struggling to get past Monterrey. This is a trainwreck for pootin. You can try to pour sugar on the turd, but no one is biting.
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In Soviet Russia enemy lose badly when fierce Nazi slaying Russians make plan Z tactical retreat, liberate civilian Nazi's from their mortal coils, make other countries fearful and join NATO, and recycle equipment and soldiers back to the earth for make great benefit of the glorious motherland.
 
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volgr said:
I'll bookmark this. It will be fun to quote from time to time in the future.
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Its 11:22 on the east coast. Its the future! Lets have some of this fun you are talking about!! :
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volgr said:
How would a death cult react if you didn't allow them to sacrifice children?
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Lol. You remind me of the angry mothers of the 1980's who thought Twisted Sister was a satanic band.

More pro advice for you: No one who isn't under a dictatorship or communist government uses the phrase "Death cult" unless they are naming a metal band, a metal song, or are talking about Ancient Egypt, Greece, or Rome.
Its actually Mortuary cult Comrade and it wasnt about sacrificing babies. Bless your vodka addled heart and fatty liver.
 
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Volatility said:
Does anyone find it crazy that democrats and republicans have no problem with sending billions to Ukraine, but their hands are tied when it comes to the formula crisis, gas crisis and runaway inflation?
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Soviet Russia make great victory to unite American people with special military operation in Ukraine.

But lets be real, nothing brings American together like the promise of Russians (or any other generally evil sh!t people) getting new mud holes stomped. The US is always quick to dole out cash to others to help fix their problems instead of looking inwards because, well, its just easier. Take my job for instance, I could not suspend people for 30 days or not fire them for their behavior, look the other way and take the easy way out...or I don't go the easy route and sh!t can folks using their own Union contracts against them. I always accept that challenge!
 
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Russia is so overrated at fighting.

The Soviet Union gets so much credit for defeating Germany in WW2 but they had a lot of help.

1. Germany moved 5th Panzer to Italy instead of Stalingrad due to Operation Torch and Hitler's desire to keep North Africa. This contributed to Germany not having any German divisions to relieve Stalingrad
2. At Kursk, USSR received tons of intel from the British that basically told them where Germany was attacking, with what they were attacking, and most importantly allowed Russia to take out most of the Luftwaffe before the battle ruining the pivotal offensive. USSR was also heavily supplied by USA equipment via lend-lease for the battle helping their own offensives. Even Stalin admitted that without US Trucks and AAs, the Soviet Offensives would NOT have been possible
3. Germany became heavily overextended fighting in Italy, eventually France, and Eastern Front contributing to more and more USSR victories

Russia has struggled heavily in offensive wars (Crimean War, Russo-Japanese War, and even WW1 show that). Russia's best victories have come in situations where they led the enemy into their own land and used terrain to beat their enemy (Great Northern War, Napoleonic Wars, WW2). The only true offensive war that saw Russia perform very well was the Seven Years War against Prussia and Prussia was also having to fight Austria, France, and Sweden in that war.

Russia got Poland thanks to a partitioned that saw Austria and Prussia working with them. They got Ukraine partially because Ukrainians had a choice between the Muslim Ottomans or Christian Orthodox Russians (seems like a no brainer figuring in that Ukrainians were Christian Orthodox and the Ottomans were notorious for their brutality and murder of Christians). No one really lived in Siberia so they basically beat up technologically inferior nomadic tribes such as Kazan, Uzbeks, and a very, very weakened Mongolian Empire.

Russia did have some nice wins in the 1700s against the Ottomans and Sweden. Interestingly, the era that saw the best performance for the Russian Army was under two female rulers Czar Elizabeth (who doesn't get enough credit as a great leader; it was probably because she chose the moron Peter the III to replace her instead of Catherine) and Czar Catherine the Great.

In summary, despite claiming a lot of land, Russia has been one of the weakest military nations historically. A lot of their wins have been using defensive tactics so it makes sense they are struggling in a major offensive campaign. They really haven't had a great offensive campaign in their history. Part of the problem always relates to corruption in their army and poor logistics which is what is hurting them now.
 
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Volatility said:
Does anyone find it crazy that democrats and republicans have no problem with sending billions to Ukraine, but their hands are tied when it comes to the formula crisis, gas crisis and runaway inflation?
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We need to go back to traditional American values which start with breastfeeding our children. Formula was a departure from traditional family values...basically fast food for babies.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
WOW... $8 billion in 3 months.

Ukraine Says $8.3BN Spent On War So Far As Zelensky Addresses Davos WEF | ZeroHedge

Also looks like Turkey is not looking favorably at adding Finland or Sweden to NATO...
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Turkey is likely looking for something in return. They'll come around. Besides IMO NATO would rather have Sweden and Finland than Turkey. Turkey is not as strategically important as they once were since we're not playing in the sandbox anymore. While Turkey receives most of their energy from Russia I don't really think Edrogan wants to become a Russian puppet.
 
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Volatility said:
Does anyone find it crazy that democrats and republicans have no problem with sending billions to Ukraine, but their hands are tied when it comes to the formula crisis, gas crisis and runaway inflation?
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I'm in my 70s. There has been some kind of crisis going on my entire life. Don't let it get you down.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Not really since they are all enormously different problems.
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No argument about the issues being different, but I’m trying to understand the logic of sending money to a foreign nation when American citizens are struggling.

Hunerwadel said:
I'm in my 70s. There has been some kind of crisis going on my entire life. Don't let it get you down.
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I too am a lifelong Tennessee football fan.
 
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Volatility said:
No argument about the issues being different, but I’m trying to understand the logic of sending money to a foreign nation when American citizens are struggling.
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If you cannot understand the big picture, long term import of the effort to help Ukraine stave off Putin, there's really not a lot of conversation to have.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
I'm in my 70s. There has been some kind of crisis going on my entire life. Don't let it get you down.
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True and our crisis are still pennies compared to what generations in the past went through. Think about being born in 1900 and having to go through the Titanic, WW1, Bird Flu, Great Depression, Dustbowl, WW2, and perhaps even Korean War and Cuban Missile Crises.
 
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