War in Ukraine

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EasternVol said:
Probably, but hey at least the defense contractors get paid
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The thing about defense spending and defense contractors is a mixed blessing when you think about it. We could send Ukraine pots and pans, but those are made in China; we could send them meds, but those are made in China; we could send them clothing, but that's made in a lot of places including China. At least if we send weapons and munitions, we are generally supporting a US industry ... however overpriced. It puts money into our own economy rather than China's. Personally I'd rather see government money go into any segment that produces something tangible than into some sort of welfare in hope of stimulating an economy not built much around industry because we stupidly sent most of our manufacturing away.
 
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AM64 said:
The thing about defense spending and defense contractors is a mixed blessing when you think about it. We could send Ukraine pots and pans, but those are made in China; we could send them meds, but those are made in China; we could send them clothing, but that's made in a lot of places including China. At least if we send weapons and munitions, we are generally supporting a US industry ... however overpriced. It puts money into our own economy rather than China's. Personally I'd rather see government money go into any segment that produces something tangible than into some sort of welfare in hope of stimulating an economy not built much around industry because we stupidly sent most of our manufacturing away.
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Where do the weapons individual components and the raw materials for those weapons come from?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It is speculated that to avoid that NATO problem, that Poland would act on their own. They wouldn't need NATO.
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Your man crush better hope they chose not to or their Russian asses will be scattered all over Western Russia.

And no they aren’t going to divide up Ukraine if they do attack Russia I’d guess they’d like some Kalingrad.
 
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I'm going to wake up one morning and the conversation is going to go something like...

Ukraine: "Hey, Hey wake up, you hear that?"

West: "What do you mean, I don't hear anything."

Ukraine: "That's it... The Russians are gone. There's no bombing... what happened?"

West: "Uhhhh.... IDK, let ne take a look."

West: "Hey.... Russia, you OK over there? It's a little quiet, where you at?"

Russia: "What do you mean? We are right here, where we've always been."

West: "Well, what happened to Ukraine? You know, all that raping and pillaging and killing and burning... all that fun stuff."

Russia: "I don't know what you are talking about, we were never in Ukraine, you must be thinking of someone else. You western nato nazis are always blaming someone else."
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Where do the weapons individual components and the raw materials for those weapons come from?
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I didn't say it was perfect. We used to produce the materials like metals here although we imported a lot of iron ore from Canada - not sure about sources of bauxite and a lot of other ores. There are guys here who know more than I, but the US semiconductor industry is still in the world top ten. You'd almost have to believe that with the bulk of entertainment, computer, and auto industry stuff imported from elsewhere, that the US producers are churning out Mil Spec stuff ... I'm assuming that's still a thing and going into military hardware. At least you have to hope the Chinese don't have a backdoor into our weaponry through Trojan Horse semiconductors.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
I'm going to wake up one morning and the conversation is going to go something like...

Ukraine: "Hey, Hey wake up, you hear that?"

West: "What do you mean, I don't hear anything."

Ukraine: "That's it... The Russians are gone. There's no bombing... what happened?"

West: "Uhhhh.... IDK, let ne take a look."

West: "Hey.... Russia, you OK over there? It's a little quiet, where you at?"

Russia: "What do you mean? We are right here, where we've always been."

West: "Well, what happened to Ukraine? You know, all that raping and pillaging and killing and burning... all that fun stuff."

Russia: "I don't know what you are talking about, we were never in Ukraine, you must be thinking of someone else. You western nato nazis are always blaming someone else."
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You should write for the Kyiv regime or the mainstream media outlets. You've missed your calling in life.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Russian envoy to Poland hit with red paint at war cemetery


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Everybody in that picture just thought to themselves "i don't get paid enough for this sh*t."
 
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EasternVol said:
They are good at science.
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I had a couple working for me years ago; the guy was an engineer and the wife was a mathematician (and college professor). I forgot where exactly, but they were from one of the Soviet states, and they were both top notch. The thing is Russia (and the Soviets) and other countries segregate the best and give them a great education while we blunder along and teach everybody the same drivel because we can't have exceptionalism - one of the big nails in our national coffin.
 
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Orangeburst said:
So what dumbass thought that celebrating V-Day, and a subsequent 40+ year resulting occupation, on the streets of Poland was a good idea?
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He was going to a war cemetery.

I remember a few years ago some of you guys were pizzed when the gravesites near Normandy were desecrated by some woke folk.
 
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AM64 said:
No tanks or other hardware driving by? That's usually a big deal in Russian parades. There are always row after row of big missiles on mobile launchers, too. Amazing that the guy just snapped a picture of marching troops like that was the hit of the parade.
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I think they are out of hardware that they can put in a parade.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
He was going to a war cemetery.

I remember a few years ago some of you guys were pizzed when the gravesites near Normandy were desecrated by some woke folk.
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Not seeing the connection AT ALL and actually surprised you made this comment.
It was a dumb political stunt...hey we helped you defeat the Nazis and yet made you subservient. People that are still alive that lived under that brutal regime have memories.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
He was going to a war cemetery.

I remember a few years ago some of you guys were pizzed when the gravesites near Normandy were desecrated by some woke folk.
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You count me in on that. I recall seeing signs from the woke French that said to get your garbage off of our soil at a Normandy cemetery for Americans. That infuriates me to this day.
 
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AM64 said:
I had a couple working for me years ago; the guy was an engineer and the wife was a mathematician (and college professor). I forgot where exactly, but they were from one of the Soviet states, and they were both top notch. The thing is Russia (and the Soviets) and other countries segregate the best and give them a great education while we blunder along and teach everybody the same drivel because we can't have exceptionalism - one of the big nails in our national coffin.
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And I guarantee that the Soviets didn’t waste their education rubles by sending the best and brightest to learn gender theory or post colonialist poetry.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Not seeing the connection AT ALL and actually surprised you made this comment.
It was a dumb political stunt...hey we helped you defeat the Nazis and yet made you subservient. People that are still alive that lived under that brutal regime have memories.
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That would make sense if this was the very first time they had been to that cemetery. Then you could definitely say it was a political stunt. But if this is a regular type of visit, then we all know what this is over, and it ain't got nothing to do with making them subservient.
 
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