War in Ukraine

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DonjoVol said:
Once again. You're more than welcome to go over there and give us some more accurate reporting.
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Russia government controls all media. If you criticize what's going on right now they will jail you. And you pretend a guy allowed to be imbedded with their soldiers is an honest arbiter of what is going on. GTFO with your nonsense. You are so full of **** I can smell your breath here in Georgia.
 
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DonjoVol said:
John McCain even said Ukraine needed IMF loans back in 2013-14. I believe this is much what this conflict originally revolved around.
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Victoria Nuland also brought that up in a conference she had in December 2013... Pay attention to what the terms that were given to Yanukovych. Negotiating with the IMF. That entire "move to Europe" was just a scheme to do what the US has done before. Place heavy debts on these countries, make them impose austerity measures, and then slowly drain them of their resources. These people did not give any f**ks about Ukrainian democracy or sovereignty. It was a racket.

 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Parallels to Vietnam War... mainly the 1954 Geneva Accords and the 2015 Minsk II Agreements. Whenever a diplomatic solution is available, but doesn't go to our liking, we make sure that our proxy doesn't do anything to abide by the peace agreement.

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There was an agreement in 1994 signed in Budapest by Russia. It didn’t go how Pootin wanted so he broke it at least three times. The Minsk II dumbassery you keep chest thumping over is a direct result of Pootin shredding the Budapest Agreement, Moe
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
There was an agreement in 1994 signed in Budapest by Russia. It didn’t go how Pootin wanted so he broke it at least three times. The Minsk II dumbassery you keep chest thumping over is a direct result of Pootin shredding the Budapest Agreement, Moe
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Well first off, Putin wasn't running the show in 1994. It was the drunkard and inept Boris Yeltsin. The West and Wall Street were on a path to run Russia into the ground in the same way that they were abusing Ukraine until recently. Putin took over and had to clean up a lot of the mistakes Yeltsin made and get corrupt western influences out of the way.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Well first off, Putin wasn't running the show in 1994. It was the drunkard and inept Boris Yeltsin. The West and Wall Street were on a path to run Russia into the ground in the same way that they were abusing Ukraine until recently. Putin took over and had to clean up a lot of the mistakes Yeltsin made and get corrupt western influences out of the way.
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Irrelevant and freaking laughable you clown. Once again you can rationalize away Pootin’s diplomatic f$&@ ups just as easily as he can rationalize away Russia’s commitments for expedience of his invasion agenda.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Irrelevant and freaking laughable you clown. Once again you can rationalize away Pootin’s diplomatic f$&@ ups just as easily as he can rationalize away Russia’s commitments for expedience of his invasion agenda.
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Have you read the key points of that Budapest Agreement? I think you might want to pump the brakes on your support of it.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Have you read the key points of that Budapest Agreement? I think you might want to pump the brakes on your support of it.
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Yep I have. No need to pump the breaks on anything. Russia has violated it at least three times now according to any country not named Russia. Russia occupying ANY soil within the sovereign boundaries of Ukraine at the time of signing is in direct violation of the agreement.

Had Russia kept their word on the Budapest Agreement there would have not been any Minsk Protocols to appease that invading bastard Pootin.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Well you have finally completely lost it
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You obviously haven't been paying attention to recent trends. I am also referring to the Gen Z generation and not the Millennial generation.

If anyone in here has lost their minds it's people who are so stuck in their ways that they can't do simple basic research.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Parallels to Vietnam War... mainly the 1954 Geneva Accords and the 2015 Minsk II Agreements. Whenever a diplomatic solution is available, but doesn't go to our liking, we make sure that our proxy doesn't do anything to abide by the peace agreement.

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You do realize, but you obviously don’t, North Vietnam violated the peace agreements in 54’ and 73’. Probably was those Western death cults again
 
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DonjoVol said:
You obviously haven't been paying attention to recent trends. I am also referring to the Gen Z generation and not the Millennial generation.

If anyone in here has lost their minds it's people who are so stuck in their ways that they can't do simple basic research.
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I don’t need to do basic research. I teach them everyday and have for years. There is nothing conservative about this generation and I teach in the South in a very conservative district. I am sure we have a bunch of Goldwater Republicans being molded as we speak in the New York City or Chicago public school districts.
 
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volfanhill said:
Russia government controls all media. If you criticize what's going on right now they will jail you. And you pretend a guy allowed to be imbedded with their soldiers is an honest arbiter of what is going on. GTFO with your nonsense. You are so full of **** I can smell your breath here in Georgia.
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I have been assured by Ras that Russia is a thriving democracy
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
If they would lie about that, can they be trusted to be telling the truth about anything else going on in the conflict?
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it happens in every war. its practically tradition. nothing wrong with giving people hope when things are bleak.
 
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landscapingvol said:
I don’t need to do basic research. I teach them everyday and have for years. There is nothing conservative about this generation and I teach in the South in a very conservative district. I am sure we have a bunch of Goldwater Republicans being molded as we speak in the New York City or Chicago public school districts.
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I'm not sure what your definition is of conservative but many are rejecting this current leftist narrative. This is one reason why the Biden administration is coming out with their ministry of truth. Many people on TikTok constantly make fun of Biden and a lot of this Gen Z crowd can't stand him.

Perhaps it's where you teach that is trying to push the narrative and many keep silent and don't speak out against it.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I'm not sure what your definition is of conservative but many are rejecting this current leftist narrative. This is one reason why the Biden administration is coming out with their ministry of truth. Many people on TikTok constantly make fun of Biden and a lot of this Gen Z crowd can't stand him.

Perhaps it's where you teach that is trying to push the narrative and many keep silent and don't speak out against it.
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I work in MTG’s district. You might want to rethink that statement. There is no shortage of conservative voices in this district
 
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landscapingvol said:
I work in MTG’s district. You might want to rethink that statement. There is no shortage of conservative voices in this district
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And you might want to rethink your statement that you know which way this generation is leaning politically. They are not going to heavily support the democrat party like you and others think. The Virginia governor race was a perfect example of that.
 
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landscapingvol said:
You mean other than censoring the media, imprisonment of political opposition, and an actual true oligarchy? Nah, can’t think of anything off the top of my head
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You mean like the Ukrainian government censoring media outlets and banning political parties. Much of their money going into the hands of their oligarchs.

Seems like what you are accusing Russia of is happening in your beloved Ukraine.
 
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DonjoVol said:
You mean like the Ukrainian government censoring media outlets and banning political parties. Much of their money going into the hands of their oligarchs.

Seems like what you are accusing Russia of is happening in your beloved Ukraine.
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When Ukraine starts invading other countries we will point out their warts.
 
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DonjoVol said:
And you might want to rethink your statement that you know which way this generation is leaning politically. They are not going to heavily support the democrat party like you and others think. The Virginia governor race was a perfect example of that.
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The Virginia governor’s race was a statewide election in which the demographic that you are hailing voted in majority for McAuliffe not Youngkin
 
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