War in Ukraine

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Hahahaha....every single word of that came out of brain, shooting straight from the hip with zero punctuation or spell checks dude. My highest level of formal education is a GED and a few college courses relevant to construction btw. Havent been in a classroom in 25 years.

Read.
Learn..
Stay curious and do your best to never spread misinformation .

I have raised a HS valedictorian and have another in 7th grade not far off the pace.

I had a pager in HS because cellphones didnt drop til my senior year. Was an adult when the interwebz hit the scene. Educate yourself. Nobody else will if you dont.

Edit: i do not post often but they tend to be novels when i do. I challenge you to find a single instance in ANY post on VN over the years where i copied or pasted something attempting to pass it off as original text. I must say...your accusation is a bit flattering and i appreciate it.
 
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DonjoVol said:
South Ossetia and Transnistria actually declared their independence all the way back in the early 90s.

I am not picking and choosing. I have no problem with most independent movements. Especially after what happened with the former Yugoslav Republic. Why is Kosovo allowed to be their own nation but Donetsk is not?

And it's not really Russia or Ukraine's choice. It should be left to the people of Donetsk and Luhansk. If they want independence then it should be fine.
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Shouldn't the same be said for Ukraine and who they wish to align themselves with? Goose and gander right?
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
3 basic "races" which are easily identified by bone structure: Mongoloid, Negroid, Caucasoid. Yes..these terms are not probably up to par with modern sensitivities but thats what I heard on Forensic Files.
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So you mean descendants of Shem, Ham, and Japheth ...right?

Bibilical scholars ascribe the sons of Noah to races this way:

Shemites....asians/pacific island/etc

Hamites...africans and similar

Japhethites....white folks of European origin (Caucasians)

As best i remember it anyway
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
So you mean descendants of Shem, Ham, and Japheth ...right?

Bibilical scholars ascribe the sons of Noah to races this way:

Shemites....asians/pacific island/etc

Hamites...africans and similar

Japhethites....white folks of European origin (Caucasians)

As best i remember it anyway
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I don't know sh!t about the bible other than I'd rather read it again than Watership Down.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
I don't know sh!t about the bible other than I'd rather read it again than Watership Down.
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Word. You and i are close in age though and our musical tastes overlap pretty well which also makes sense. Also as you already know my whole fam was USAF lol..

Definitely dont want to derail the thread but i think its cool that thousands of years before anyone even knew genetics existed the Bible says that there was a great flood and the whole world perished other than elderly Noah and his 3 sons/wives. It tells that Noahs sons would be the 3 that were the basis for all the different peoples of the world. Thousands of years later genetics reveals that there are in fact 3 distinct "kinds" or "lines" of peoples on Earth. Pretty cool IMO.

* also cool that nearly every culture on Earth decribes a time of a great flood the likes of which were never seen again. In dozens of different languages, cultures, and on several different continents plus the island peoples like Hawaiians
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Word. You and i are close in age though and our musical tastes overlap pretty well which also makes sense. Also as you already know my whole fam was USAF lol..

Definitely dont want to derail the thread but i think its cool that thousands of years before anyone even knew genetics existed the Bible says that there was a great flood and the whole world perished other than elderly Noah and his 3 sons/wifes. It tells that Noahs sons would be the 3 that were the basis for all the different peoples of the world. Thousands of years later genetics reveals that there are in fact 3 distinct "kinds" or "lines" of peoples on Earth. Pretty cool IMO.

* also cool that nearly every culture on Earth decribes a time of a great flood the likes of which were never seen again. In dozens of different languages, cultures, and on several different continents plus the island peoples like Hawaiians
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Human genetics, and especially how early humans migrated out of Africa is truly fascinating, especially when you look at how the different cultures advanced in their own ways.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
I don't know sh!t about the bible other than I'd rather read it again than Watership Down.
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Last I checked some of these Hebrew Israelite groups believe white skinned people came from Edom. So I guess it depends on which biblical scholars you are talking to.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Word. You and i are close in age though and our musical tastes overlap pretty well which also makes sense. Also as you already know my whole fam was USAF lol..

Definitely dont want to derail the thread but i think its cool that thousands of years before anyone even knew genetics existed the Bible says that there was a great flood and the whole world perished other than elderly Noah and his 3 sons/wives. It tells that Noahs sons would be the 3 that were the basis for all the different peoples of the world. Thousands of years later genetics reveals that there are in fact 3 distinct "kinds" or "lines" of peoples on Earth. Pretty cool IMO.

* also cool that nearly every culture on Earth decribes a time of a great flood the likes of which were never seen again. In dozens of different languages, cultures, and on several different continents plus the island peoples like Hawaiians
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yo sent you a text
 
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DonjoVol said:
Not everyone who is a Ukrainian citizen wants to align themselves with the U.S. and the West. Even some ethnic Ukrainians.
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This is shallow thinking. Not every American wants to be free or conservative or even capitalist so you believe they should form their own communist countries within America?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
This is shallow thinking. Not every American wants to be free or conservative or even capitalist so you believe they should form their own communist countries within America?
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It's not shallow thinking. It's called stating facts. Honestly what business is it really of ours if Donetsk and Luhansk want their independence? We have more important things to worry about here at home.

I've heard some people say they would have no problem of California would secede. Then of course you have some people in California who would love to separate from the more democrat parts of California.

As far as capitalism goes maybe it's time we create an economic system even better than capitalism. Nothing is stopping us from doing it.
 
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DonjoVol said:
It's not shallow thinking. It's called stating facts. Honestly what business is it really of ours if Donetsk and Luhansk want their independence? We have more important things to worry about here at home.

I've heard some people say they would have no problem of California would secede. Then of course you have some people in California who would love to separate from the more democrat parts of California.

As far as capitalism goes maybe it's time we create an economic system even better than capitalism. Nothing is stopping us from doing it.
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is it going to be eerily similar to fascism?
 
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DonjoVol said:
It's not shallow thinking. It's called stating facts. Honestly what business is it really of ours if Donetsk and Luhansk want their independence? We have more important things to worry about here at home.

I've heard some people say they would have no problem of California would secede. Then of course you have some people in California who would love to separate from the more democrat parts of California.

As far as capitalism goes maybe it's time we create an economic system even better than capitalism. Nothing is stopping us from doing it.
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Lmao
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Hahahaha....every single word of that came out of brain, shooting straight from the hip with zero punctuation or spell checks dude. My highest level of formal education is a GED and a few college courses relevant to construction btw. Havent been in a classroom in 25 years.

Read.
Learn..
Stay curious and do your best to never spread misinformation .

I have raised a HS valedictorian and have another in 7th grade not far off the pace.

I had a pager in HS because cellphones didnt drop til my senior year. Was an adult when the interwebz hit the scene. Educate yourself. Nobody else will if you dont.

Edit: i do not post often but they tend to be novels when i do. I challenge you to find a single instance in ANY post on VN over the years where i copied or pasted something attempting to pass it off as original text. I must say...your accusation is a bit flattering and i appreciate it.
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And everything I've stated has come off the top of my head and from extra studying and reading in my free time. Every once in a while I'll post a link to something. Usually in response to links other people have posted.
Race and ethnicity is more complex than what you've been taught. I'm sorry to break that to you. Perhaps some reading outside what you have learned. You will learn even more and expand your mind.

I would suggest first reading up on the Basque people, their language, and what makes them unique from other groups of people living in Europe. Then try and make the claim they are the same as any other "white European" group.

I never owned a pager in high school and didn't own a cell phone until the early 2000s. I needed it for work at the time.

People get mad at me in here very easily. One, because I have some different views than them. Two, because I'll easily call them out on their BS regardless of their political views. In reality I'm one of the actual moderate or centrist individuals in this forum and they can't stand it.
 
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