War in Ukraine

[FLVOL_79]

Russia has yet to slow a Western arms express into Ukraine

"...U.S. officials and analysts offer numerous explanations for why the Russians have had so little success interdicting Western arms moving overland from neighboring countries, including Poland. Among the likely reasons: Russia’s failure to win full control of Ukraine’s skies has limited its use of air power. Also, the Russians have struggled to deliver weapons and supplies to their own troops in Ukraine.

Some say Moscow’s problem begins at home.

“The short answer to the question is that they are an epically incompetent army badly led from the very top,” said James Stavridis, a retired U.S. Navy admiral who was the top NATO commander in Europe from 2009 to 2013."

The epicness of the Russian incompetency for their "special mission" might lead one to think that maybe special means special...

 

[Septic]

Show the photos of the weapon debris or GTFO clown.

He won't provide evidence because it doesn't exist, from the beginning his whole playbook has been to deflect with outlandish claims and scamper away; like a monkey flinging its feces out of a car window like some kind of backwoods, low-rent, nasty, freaky ass drive-by.

 

[Septic]

The epicness of the Russian incompetency for their "special mission" might lead one to think that maybe special means special...

Bubbles and Ricky have shown more competency than Pootin and his army. I feel like the Benny Hill theme music should be on every time they wheel up in a BMP.

 

[landscapingvol]

Only Russia gets to attack Ukraine and not expect any retaliations, and my other question is why haven't they done so already in terms of bombing their headquarters. Ukraine would be wise to open up another front against Russia which would relieve pressure on Eastern Ukraine.

Russia threatens to bomb Ukraine's military headquarters

 

[NorthDallas40]

He won't provide evidence because it doesn't exist, from the beginning his whole playbook has been to deflect with outlandish claims and scamper away; like a monkey flinging its feces out of a car window like some kind of backwoods, low-rent, nasty, freaky ass drive-by.

Eggsackary

 

[NorthDallas40]

You want World War III to break out? This is how.

If there is a military convoy or loaded train on Ukrainian soil it probably is a legitimate target at this point And I don’t think a powder blue helmet will mean ****

 

[LouderVol]

The US State Department got all of this started in 2014 with the coup. Why do you ignore this simple fact?

you just mad "our" coup worked, while the Russian's didnt.

Still cant admit to the sudden pivot their president made to Russia.

 

[OrangeTsar]

I despise what Russia has done even as I simultaneously dread what Biden and the Neocons are doing in response. The neocon siren song never changes

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

Another $800 million of US taxpayer dollars down the toilet!

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/13/bid...al-800-million-in-assistance-for-ukraine.html

 

[LouderVol]

I've seen the rationalization of America's meddling caused Russia's aggression many times in this thread.
Are there any reputable sources which outline recent Ukrainian history?

You can dig up the Ukraine 1 thread. Lots of info provided at the time before the Russians could retcon it to their liking.

 

[AM64]

Ukrainian fighter pilots in old jets take on better-equipped Russians

This story is either not true or Western propaganda but if it were a random or vague Tweet by a Russian sympathizer it would be the Gospel truth

There are a couple of other stories discussing the Ukrainian AF and our involvement/training. This part is interesting

Also, the Ukrainian pilots had some experience with large-scale high-intensity conflict scenarios from lessons learned from the US Air Force, particularly during the ‘Clear Sky’ series of drills in 2018 which was the first-ever joint multinational exercise hosted by Ukraine.

During Clear Sky, the MiG-29s and Su-27s sparred with the F-15Cs of the California Air National Guard’s 144th Fighter Wing wherein the F-15s replicated the tactics and performance of Russian Su-30 and Su-35S Flanker fighters.

The F-15s that took part in these maneuvers were older than the Ukrainian MiGs, they had been highly modernized and were considered much more capable than the Ukrainian MiG-29s and Su-27s that have undergone only modest and piecemeal upgrades.

Even still, the Ukrainian pilots were “sometimes pretty successful, just using our flexibility and creation of non-standard decisions,” Juice recalled.

“We did plenty of (basic fighter maneuvers) with our F-15Cs against their MiG-29s and Su-27s and to be honest we could tell instantly that their pilots were very good. They are very tactically inventive, they know their airframes and also understand what they are lacking. I mean, they fly old jets. Our F-15s for example are old airframes, but they have been constantly upgraded with new avionics,” retired Jonathan ‘Jersey’ Burd, the lead planner for the 2018 Clear Sky exercise told The War Zone.

Past Soviet tactics relied heavily on ground control to direct fighters. There doesn't seem to be much info on how that's evolved - whether Russians are allowing on pilots as tacticians or pilots as guided drones. If it's the heavy handed and directed approach, it's not surprising the Russians haven't really achieved aerial domination over Ukraine. As far as Ukrainian pilots wishing for more advanced planes, that's impractical right now; there simply isn't time to learn and coordinate - can't change horses midstream.

Ukrainian Fighter Pilot Reveals How US F-15 Jets Helped Kiev Battle A Superior Russian Air Force Led-By Su-35 Fighters

US Air Force Discusses Tactics with Ukrainian Air Force as Russian Advance Stalls - Air Force Magazine

 

[AM64]

See, this is one of those pieces I am assuming is propaganda. At least if it's the same video I saw earlier it's a guy clearly not on the front line taking it apart. I would be much more willing to believe it if it was done in the field.

On the other hand, if it works, why reinvent the wheel? There are a lot of small cameras with very good optics these days; if it works, why not? I'd probably look to cameras intended for more rugged work.

 

[MontyPython]

Russian cruiser Moskva is on fire.

Ukraine hit it w multiple anti-ship missiles.

Or as @volgr would say, it's an imaginary fire.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Another $800 million of US taxpayer dollars down the toilet!

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/13/bid...al-800-million-in-assistance-for-ukraine.html

Makes as much sense as giving it to Americans to not go to work. It’s not like they really worry about what they spend. It’s just Monopoly money to Sloppy Joe and his trained seals in Congress

 

[LouderVol]

On the other hand, if it works, why reinvent the wheel? There are a lot of small cameras with very good optics these days; if it works, why not? I'd probably look to cameras intended for more rugged work.

Oh I agree. Not saying I dont believe the russians arent using commercial equipment. If anything it would be smart if they did, as long as it works.

But in the clip it doesnt look like there was any other real equipment to go with the camera. I would think at least there would need to be some sort of navigation/control and someway to transmit those images. I am no drone surgeon so I dont really know. But that one didnt pass the smell test for me and i call it like i see it.

 

[AM64]

Oh I agree. Not saying I dont believe the russians arent using commercial equipment. If anything it would be smart if they did, as long as it works.

But in the clip it doesnt look like there was any other real equipment to go with the camera. I would think at least there would need to be some sort of navigation/control and someway to transmit those images. I am no drone surgeon so I dont really know. But that one didnt pass the smell test for me and i call it like i see it.

Oh yeah, I completely agree. If you were doing real time surveillance and trying to do it with commercial equipment, it would seem cellphone technology would be better starting point than a DSLR.

 

[evillawyer]

 

[Burhead]

Another $800 million of US taxpayer dollars down the toilet!

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/13/bid...al-800-million-in-assistance-for-ukraine.html

If I had to pick one country getting US military aid I’d rather it be a country like Ukraine who is willing to fight and not ask for American troops then send it to places like Afghanistan who just rolled over and we wasted billions of dollars, equipment, and lives for no reason.

 

[volgr]

Russian cruiser Moskva is on fire.

Ukraine hit it w multiple anti-ship missiles.

Or as @volgr would say, it's an imaginary fire.

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You have no shame. Will you stop posting these fakes? Of course you wont...next time you @ me, dont make me clean up your mess, dumbass

 

[allvol123]

Russian cruiser Moskva is on fire.

Ukraine hit it w multiple anti-ship missiles.

Or as @volgr would say, it's an imaginary fire.

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More of Putin’s chess moves.

 

[volgr]

I saw the Moskva report earlier today and thought, that is likely false. Then I see the old pictures from another event confirming it is false and I think to myself, I bet one of those Ukrainian simps on the Politics MB will post it...

And sure enough, you never fail...

 

[volgr]

As Ukraine soldiers in Donbas run out of food, fuel, bullets, while being under constant bombardment, I think we will see more of this in Donbas.

 

[Burhead]

I saw the Moskva report earlier today and thought, that is likely false. Then I see the old pictures from another event confirming it is false and I think to myself, I bet one of those Ukrainian simps on the Politics MB will post it...

And sure enough, you never fail...

Russian media just confirmed the damage to the Moskva.

 

[Paper_Towel]

 

[allvol123]

I saw the Moskva report earlier today and thought, that is likely false. Then I see the old pictures from another event confirming it is false and I think to myself, I bet one of those Ukrainian simps on the Politics MB will post it...

And sure enough, you never fail...

Lol.