War in Ukraine

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luthervol said:
I'll start.
They invaded a sovereign nation and are committing war crimes.

I don't know why we need to go further.
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Let me make it more accurate for you...

They invaded a hostile border Country to which both sides have accused the other of committing war crimes with the preponderance of evidence thus far siding with Russian claims.
 
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volgr said:
Let me make it more accurate for you...

They invaded a hostile border Country to which both sides have accused the other of committing war crimes with the preponderance of evidence thus far siding with Russian claims.
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Let’s don’t stop there. Finish the lunacy.

Russia is meeting all military goals.
Russian economy is doing balls to the wall.
Putin is a legitimately elected president.
 
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allvol123 said:
Let’s don’t stop there. Finish the lunacy.

Russia is meeting all military goals.
Russian economy is doing balls to the wall.
Putin is a legitimately elected president.
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Their economy isnt going balls to the wall, but they also arent devastated as the west predicted they would be. They are staying afloat and in the end will be better off because of it.

Other 2 points are correct. Doesnt it feel good to speak truth?
 
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Anon released this information hours ago. Rumor is they used it to find the guy that was in charge of the Bucha massacre. They are calling him "the Butcher" in some spaces.
 
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Septic said:
As a trump fan, you may want to sit out this round of stone chucking.

Or at least wait until the heat wears off of him asking Putin to dig up dirt on a sitting US president instead of imploring him to stop the war.
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Oh come on , we spent 5 years watching everybody on the planet ask for dirt on Trump , the man and the Trump family was under the largest intel microscope of any candidate or sitting POTUS that we’ve ever seen . “ May want to sit this one out “ 😂😂😂
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Anon released this information hours ago. Rumor is they used it to find the guy that was in charge of the Bucha massacre. They are calling him "the Butcher" in some spaces.
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Every bad guy has to have a nickname. The Butcher, lol. What is Zelensky's, The B1tcher?
 
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KB5252 said:
You mean possible Ukrainian war crimes..... Since your giving the benefit of the doubt equally right?
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No. I'm referencing the bolded word...

That being said, war crimes are war crimes and should be punished accordingly. Something tells me though Ukraine is going to have a hard time topping the murder and rape of children by the Russians that is coming out now as they retreat.
 
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volgr said:
Every bad guy has to have a nickname. The Butcher, lol. What is Zelensky's, The B1tcher?
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Zelensky's nickname is "big balls" because he stood up to the Russian War Machine and stayed in Kiev when it was under fire. Zelensky's stand was probably what saved Ukraine. I think the Ukrainians would have rolled over if not for that.
 
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volgr said:
Russia seems eager to tell their side of the story...
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I for one want to hear what they have to say so we have a record to compare it to the story that is being told from the Ukrainian side as well as our media machine. Most of this will eventually be proved out - with a gloating shout of wall to wall coverage if it agrees with our narrative and with a quick whimper in the back pages if it does not.

Frankly, it strains credulity that Russia went into Bucha and not a single person was unduly harmed like they are saying. I am also not sure how much I believe these reports of Russian atrocities, especially when they know that Ukraine is looking for material to paint them further as war criminals. The idea that Ukraine would murder its own in a false flag type operation also seems farfetched but is possible of course as is them making up stories of atrocities, complete with video as we have often seen Palestinians do against Israel. Because in case you forgot, Ukraine's only way to win this war is to keep Western powers engaged and involved, so all things are suspect.

But either way - I want that Russia can tell its story and be heard. Then, based on evidence that will come out as we go, we can collectively decide for ourselves who is lying. That is how freedom works. It is inconvenient since it is so much easier to only listen inside your own echo chamber but it is the only way that truth remains enthroned in our systems. Otherwise, you end up with a house of cards built on a foundation of lies.
 
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allvol123 said:
One simple solution for not getting tagged with war crimes, don’t send your military into another country.
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Whoa whoa slow your roll with that sound logic!

If you do send your troops into another country, make sure you have trained them correctly and you aren't employing a bunch of Russian trailer park boys and kidnapped conscripts..
 
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