War in Ukraine

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lawgator1 said:
It is hard to envision a stable Putin regime even if there is a negotiated outcome to the invasion.

First, the West will never welcome him back to any global economic organization. Their economy is doomed for at least a decade.

Second, and even if Russia ends up with Donbas the remainder of Ukraine will want revenge for generations to come.

Third, as soldiers come home and word spreads about the lack of justification for this and the cost, there's going to be a ton of internal resentment handicapping himfor the restof his days.

He has painted himself into a corner.
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Well this means the western governments will welcome Russia back with open arms. Their economy will boom, the Ukrainians and Russians will end up BFFs and Putin's internal popularity will skyrocket.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Sure...
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It's all smoke an mirrors. You keep pointing at the rouble rebounding vs the dollar and no doubt, Pootin has done a good job at stabilizing the rouble in the short term. But the long term effects are going to be brutal.

Remember when the sinking Titanic was vertical and then broke in half and the stern was floating normally for a few minutes. That's where Russia's economy is right now.
 
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lawgator1 said:
If there were an open and free election, with free communication leading up to it, you have to think he'd get absolutely smoked by every opposition candidate they put up.
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You are mistaken. Putin and the political party he belongs to are very popular with the Russian people.
 
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DonjoVol said:
My debate tactics are just fine. You know why? Because you guys and gals often resort to insults. Which means I've gotten the best of people such as yourself.
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This was the first post in this exchange where I even threw any real shade at you. And it was based on observation of your completely obtuse state of mind relating to the question I posted to you in my first reply. No your “debate tactics” are most definitely not fine.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
This was the first post in this exchange where I even threw any real shade at you. And it was based on observation of your completely obtuse state of mind relating to the question I posted to you in my first reply. No your “debate tactics” are most definitely not fine.
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My debate tactics are more than fine. I know how to stand my ground and get my points across. The problem is many people don't like when I stand by ground or disagree so they resort to insults, name calling, personal attacks, etc. It's a common tactic here on Volnation. And to top it off. When I throw their behavior back at them I'm the bad guy lol.

Anyways, you want to discuss some of the points I've made today that's fine. I'm willing to do it. You might not change my mind and I might not change yours. Which is fine. As long as people are civil and mostly respectful I can agree to disagree.
 
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apevol said:
Was reading they weren't even aware what Chernobyl was
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Evidently there is a large forest east of the nuclear facility that is extremely radioactive since it was downwind of the leak point. Apparently it was an opening in the Ukrainian defensive lines because they wouldn't go into that area even for a short time. The Russians apparently just sent their troops through the forest even setting up camps there. Looks like those conscripts will be future cancer patients.
 
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