War in Ukraine

Well it didn’t work. German war production was not only unharmed but continued to increase throughout the war and no, it is morally wrong to bomb citizens because of their leader. That’s a neocon conversation framer. I’m no more responsible for what Joe Biden does than I am for making sure the tides run on time.

German war production by late 1944 was exponentially weaker and by 1945 nearly nonexistent. The war wasn’t taken to the German heartland until late 1944. The defenders of Berlin were using WW1 era machine guns so that is factually incorrect with little to no armored units available. The only reason German war production increased comparatively to the beginning of the war was due to resource acquisition from other European nations. Once the war was taken to the German industrial heartland, German war production decreased dramatically. If Joe Biden were ravaging the North and South American continent as well as committing genocide I can assure you that you would in fact be held responsible by the forces fighting against us.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64
Darn Hog you were doing so well there until you said the ball bearing raids had a major effect on German war production. It really didn't. Besides, our losses on the Schweinfurt and Regensburg were so horrific I don't think we ever went back in force. But their production numbers dropped when we decimated their cities, even with them using slave labor. It seems people don't work well when they have nowhere to live and no food to eat.

They were using horses at the end to move men and material.

Have you read Masters of the Air?
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64
I didn't say they were, I said they would do the same if the tables were turned.
Russia doesn't have the luxury of being able to drum up sympathy the way the West can. No one, as I'm gradually beginning to see, really would give a damn if Russia used it's own citizens as human shields.
 
Russia doesn't have the luxury of being able to drum up sympathy the way the West can. No one, as I'm gradually beginning to see, really would give a damn if Russia used it's own citizens as human shields.

They did that when they forced young boys into Ukraine. And people don’t like it.
 
German war production by late 1944 was exponentially weaker and by 1945 nearly nonexistent. The war wasn’t taken to the German heartland until late 1944. The defenders of Berlin were using WW1 era machine guns so that is factually incorrect with little to no armored units available. The only reason German war production increased comparatively to the beginning of the war was due to resource acquisition from other European nations. Once the war was taken to the German industrial heartland, German war production decreased dramatically. If Joe Biden were ravaging the North and South American continent as well as committing genocide I can assure you that you would in fact be held responsible by the forces fighting against us.
Bombing cities is “taking it to the heartland”and it happened well before 1944 and production increased until they started gaining territory.
Is it fair for disgruntled Iraqis or Yemenis to murder Americans?
 
WOW... You cannot make this s^^t up...

Moderate Nazis = Moderate Khmer Rouge
View Nam invades its neighbor Cambodia on humanitarian mission = Russia invades Ukraine on humanitarian mission
US and UK support Khmer Rouge = US and UK support Nazis

 
Situation in Kharkov

Russia doesn't have the luxury of being able to drum up sympathy the way the West can. No one, as I'm gradually beginning to see, really would give a damn if Russia used it's own citizens as human shields.
Honest question to both of you:
Do you think the average Russian citizen or the average American citizen is more factually informed about the Ukrainian situation?
 
WOW... You cannot make this s^^t up...

Moderate Nazis = Moderate Khmer Rouge
View Nam invades its neighbor Cambodia on humanitarian mission = Russia invades Ukraine on humanitarian mission
US and UK support Khmer Rouge = US and UK support Nazis


so far beyond the point of absurdity that if Gods real hes gonna kill a billion puppies in your name
 
  • Like
Reactions: luthervol
Bombing cities is “taking it to the heartland”and it happened well before 1944 and production increased until they started gaining territory.
Is it fair for disgruntled Iraqis or Yemenis to murder Americans?

You are comparing apples to oranges. The US and it’s allies were engaged with an enemy that implemented a total war strategy. At that point, the allies only option was to fight in the same fashion. The US did not conduct many effective bombing campaigns into the German heartland until mid 1944 due to stiff German air defenses. They didn’t bomb Dresden until 1945. They also bombed during the daytime which further complicated their strategy. I will admit area bombing wasn’t the greatest strategy compared to British strategies but as stated earlier they were left with few options. If the US conducted a total war strategy on an enemy where that strategy was unnecessary, then yes we would deserve it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64
Bombing cities is “taking it to the heartland”and it happened well before 1944 and production increased until they started gaining territory.
Is it fair for disgruntled Iraqis or Yemenis to murder Americans?

Gaining territory coincided with more invasive bombing strategies. They go hand in hand. Did the US make attempts to bomb the German heartland prior to the invasion of Europe? Yes, but they were largely ineffective and costly
 
Advertisement

Back
Top