War in Ukraine

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Rickyvol77 said:
I saw you changed your VN tag after I pointed out your jealously of those better than you. Good job 😂
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I see you are still making them early AM trips to the liquor store. You could at least wait until a couple of hours after Noon.
McDad said:
Is Putin's public stance against counter-culture part of the reason why we have posters supporting him?
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Conservatism and the right are probably what I would consider the new counter culture. So maybe they see Putin as fighting against the "liberal" establishment. I put liberal in quotes for a reason. Nothing liberal about Biden, Trudeau, Macron, and crew.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Not sure if this has been answered. But he often talks about the wokeness, liberalism and leftism of the West and how it destroys family values.

I think Aleksandr Dugin might also have an influence on Putin as well. Can't confirm that to be 100% true though. Dugin has talked before about a 4th political theory and a return to a more traditional society. I think he even has a book out about geopolitics.
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And Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, also.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
What do you mean by "take advantage"?
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Take advantage like the Chinese do. No more aid without strings, we give loans. We finance equipment with securities. No more moral high ground, if it's good for us that an evil SOB like Saddam is in power, work with him. We don't have to be complete a-holes like Putin but enough of spending or treasure and blood around the world with nothing in return.
 
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hog88 said:
Take advantage like the Chinese do. No more aid without strings, we give loans. We finance equipment with securities. No more moral high ground, if it's good for us that an evil SOB like Saddam is in power, work with him. We don't have to be complete a-holes like Putin but enough of spending or treasure and blood around the world with nothing in return.
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I wish I could like this post 1,000 times.
 
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hog88 said:
Take advantage like the Chinese do. No more aid without strings, we give loans. We finance equipment with securities. No more moral high ground, if it's good for us that an evil SOB like Saddam is in power, work with him. We don't have to be complete a-holes like Putin but enough of spending or treasure and blood around the world with nothing in return.
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WoodsmanVol said:
I concur. If it floats your boat, put me on IGNORE. Probably for the best when an opinion initiates dismay and intolerance. Be quick you see this post.
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I don't block people.

But c'mon, man, what remotely rational basis persuades you to opine he's selling state secrets and behind government/corporate espionage?
 
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McDad said:
Is that reason important enough to you that it warrants a 'by any means necessary' approach to facilitate accomplishment?
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It is. This far bigger than Ukraine or Russia. We are talking about the cultural decay of the West/US. If these people and entities are successful in Ukraine, we are looking at The West, at best, being plunged into the Dark Ages. Or at worst, if these guys propping up Biden could have their way, we could be looking at mankind being wiped off the map in a nuclear conflict. I really cannot explain to you how important it is for the Biden/NATO/globalist crowd to be defeated in their quest to dominate the world. They have no scruples and only see most of mankind as sheep to fleece. They don't give one f^^k about the people of Ukraine anymore than they do the people of Syria or Yemen. And that isn't to say that Putin is perfect, but Putin is not an immediate threat to me or any other American. But he is fighting against the same entities that have been reining down on us and showing their true colors over the last 2 years. These are not people you want ruling over you. The best thing that could happen is that we are able to take back our culture, return to traditional American values, and rebuild our domestic economy. That means a complete collapse and purging of the system we have now. The system isn't worth trying to fix and patch together anymore. Too much of it is out of our control.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
They are better than you are. Not under God’s eyes, they are smarter, and give more and are more valuable than you on a societal level
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I'm going to go along with your imaginary job title of VP in healthcare. So you really think you're more valuable than 20 CNAs that work at the hospital?
 
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hog88 said:
Take advantage like the Chinese do. No more aid without strings, we give loans. We finance equipment with securities. No more moral high ground, if it's good for us that an evil SOB like Saddam is in power, work with him. We don't have to be complete a-holes like Putin but enough of spending or treasure and blood around the world with nothing in return.
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So you just want to maintain the present scheme we have going by using the IMF and World Bank putting odious debt on these countries and then extracting out whatever you want?

At least the Chinese are building dams, railroads, ports and other critical infrastructure. All we've done lately is do as much destruction as we do construction and if the local leaders don't play ball, we colour revolution those guys out of the way and put in puppets. I think you are going to find over the long run that the Chinese business deals tied in with their Belt and Road Initiative won't be as bad for these emerging market countries as you might think.
 
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