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MoCo_Vol said:
I feel like the baseball team has exactly what you consider the "it" you want in players/teams.

They are hugely talented, but legit seem to treat every game like it's -the- game and play with a chip on the shoulder regardless of who they are facing. If you get a team full of talent to treat every game like that you will always win more than you lose. It's what MJ had that separated him from other players. Some people say it's being competitive but I think it's a bit different. Competitive would imply you have to be in a competition for it to matter, but that chip on the shoulder mentality is just always present. You do everything to the best of your ability, practice, walk-throughs, film sessions, and then games.
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It's the difference between hating to lose and being afraid of losing. How many Vol games in football have been lost because of that fear, instead of having the confident, overwhelming desire to absolutely crush your opponent.
 
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Glitch said:
Chris Rock probably nailed JPS at the after party while Will watched.
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ChattaTNVol said:
Continuing with the SP+ previews, this is my take on Florida and LSU:

Billy Napier was successful at Louisiana perhaps because he elevated recruiting to the #1 position in the Sun Belt Conference and brought in Power 5 transfers. He built their roster up from middle of the pack to the pole position.

He may be a good coach but similar to Saban he also had the best talent relative to his conference opponents. His predecessor with the Ragin Cajuns had been dismissed because an assistant had been paying players. That guy is another story and it doesn’t look all that pretty to me.

Anyway, Napier worked under Saban and Swinney as well as McElwain and from what I can tell he leans toward the offensive side of things. He’s expected to be the offensive play caller for the Gators.

He is considered to be a good recruiter but recruiting at Florida against other SEC, ACC, and B1G schools I suspect is going to be a bigger hill to climb that recruiting at Louisiana against other bottom tier G5 schools.

If for whatever reason he can’t consistently elevate the recruiting at Florida into the upper tier of the conference he may not last 4 years which I think is the max the Gators have allowed for their last 3 coaches.

His departure from Louisiana may have been good timing from a business/career perspective. Bill Connelly has Louisiana ranked #124 in FBS schools for returning production this year. Ouch.

This year Connelly and others who track returning production are incorporating the stats of transfer players into their numbers. For example, Pickett is gone from Pittsburgh so these gurus are substituting his lost production with the production at QB by Slovis at USC. Same with Rattler at South Carolina. I’m not sure how that’s going to stand up but that’s what they’re doing.



I have a hard time listening to Kelly at LSU. He sounds like a preacher turned politician. One of the things that he said that stood out to me is that when he got to LSU the roster only had 39 scholarship players left on it. He expect to have 84 guys by the time the season starts. Similar to Florida though some of the guys he’s inherited were high level blue chips so I don’t know how they’re going to do this year. According to Connelly’s SP+ maybe not so good. Both Florida and LSU have a number of what I would consider toss up games, at least at this point. Toss up meaning where the projected margin is equal to or less than one TD.

I’ve got Florida at maybe 8-4 but probably not that good and LSU at 3-9 and I hope that’s where they finish. I would love to visit the Tigers message board after them having a 3-9 season. jmo.

Note: From Connelly’s tweet above, we have the highest returning production relative to any one on our schedule and our numbers aren’t aided by transfers that I’m aware of, at least not yet. jmo.

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Thank you for bringing this thread back to football! I remember when that's all we discussed on this thread..
 
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ThatVolGuy said:
D1 Baseball
1. Tennessee
2. Arkansas
9. Vanderbilt
10. Ole Miss
13. LSU
14. Florida
23. Georgia

Perfect Game
1. Tennessee
6. Arkansas
7. Vanderbilt
11. Ole Miss
15. LSU
18. Florida

Baseball America
1. Tennessee
4. Arkansas
9. Ole Miss
11. Vanderbilt
16. Florida
21. LSU

College Baseball Nation
1. Tennessee
2. Arkansas
11. Ole Miss
12. Vanderbilt
15. Florida
21. LSU

It has been a long time since the top overall seed won the championship (1999, I believe), and we all know the rankings at the end of March aren't that important in the grand scheme of things, but it's cool to see the team achieve its first-ever #1 ranking. What a season so far.
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Weekly reminder, with landing Nico and in the lead for 5 star Chandavian Bradley this signals Spyre’s great work so far. Donate to them if you can. I understand if some can’t due to the radical inflation in the economy but tell your family and friends about Spyre. All of us can and will make a difference to bring UT Football back
 
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VolNash17 said:
Weekly reminder, with landing Nico and in the lead for 5 star Chandavian Bradley this signals Spyre’s great work so far. Donate to them if you can. I understand if some can’t due to the radical inflation in the economy but tell your family and friends about Spyre. All of us can and will make a difference to bring UT Football back
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This.

https://www.spyresports.com/plans-pricing
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Continuing with the SP+ previews, this is my take on Florida and LSU:

Billy Napier was successful at Louisiana perhaps because he elevated recruiting to the #1 position in the Sun Belt Conference and brought in Power 5 transfers. He built their roster up from middle of the pack to the pole position.

He may be a good coach but similar to Saban he also had the best talent relative to his conference opponents. His predecessor with the Ragin Cajuns had been dismissed because an assistant had been paying players. That guy is another story and it doesn’t look all that pretty to me.

Anyway, Napier worked under Saban and Swinney as well as McElwain and from what I can tell he leans toward the offensive side of things. He’s expected to be the offensive play caller for the Gators.

He is considered to be a good recruiter but recruiting at Florida against other SEC, ACC, and B1G schools I suspect is going to be a bigger hill to climb that recruiting at Louisiana against other bottom tier G5 schools.

If for whatever reason he can’t consistently elevate the recruiting at Florida into the upper tier of the conference he may not last 4 years which I think is the max the Gators have allowed for their last 3 coaches.

His departure from Louisiana may have been good timing from a business/career perspective. Bill Connelly has Louisiana ranked #124 in FBS schools for returning production this year. Ouch.

This year Connelly and others who track returning production are incorporating the stats of transfer players into their numbers. For example, Pickett is gone from Pittsburgh so these gurus are substituting his lost production with the production at QB by Slovis at USC. Same with Rattler at South Carolina. I’m not sure how that’s going to stand up but that’s what they’re doing.



I have a hard time listening to Kelly at LSU. He sounds like a preacher turned politician. One of the things that he said that stood out to me is that when he got to LSU the roster only had 39 scholarship players left on it. He expect to have 84 guys by the time the season starts. Similar to Florida though some of the guys he’s inherited were high level blue chips so I don’t know how they’re going to do this year. According to Connelly’s SP+ maybe not so good. Both Florida and LSU have a number of what I would consider toss up games, at least at this point. Toss up meaning where the projected margin is equal to or less than one TD.

I’ve got Florida at maybe 8-4 but probably not that good and LSU at 3-9 and I hope that’s where they finish. I would love to visit the Tigers message board after them having a 3-9 season. jmo.

Note: From Connelly’s tweet above, we have the highest returning production relative to any one on our schedule and our numbers aren’t aided by transfers that I’m aware of, at least not yet. jmo.

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Great stuff as always.

I will say that despite all other things Kelly seems capable of building things, I think this will be his toughest test though. Mainly because the majority of his staff stayed at Notre Dame, so all those assistants he had picked and developed to all pull in the same direction aren't in place to help him turn around results quickly. Still he obviously has the ability to do something right. Granted he's had a few head scratchers, the 4-8 2016 season at Notre Dame when it appeared everything was established. But he's also the only coach to win 10+ games in 5 straight years there...granted we play more games now. Still that's 5 straight seasons with a winning percentage of 75% or better, and that's not been done at ND since Lou Holtz in the late 80s/early 90s.

I say all that to mention that despite what they lost and what they may or may not have on the squad come Fall LSU is the big dog in a talent rich state. Saban, Miles, and Orgeron all were able to win national championships down there and since 2000. So I think Kelly will have success, the question is just how patient will the school be with him to do it. Coach O had 3.5 great seasons for them before sent packing after 2 subpar ones. Les Miles never had a bad season before they found a reason to fire him after a 2-2 start.

2022 class for LSU is ranked 12th even with everything that's gone on. That's with just 15 commits too, he has an additional 14 other players transferring in right now. With more to come if he plans to reach 84 for Fall.
 
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Said case of Mondays has me feeling spritely.

As I marinate on what is absolute ridiculous human behaviour. It occurs, how would Roy Mullins (John Bean) have handled Chris Rock had he been called down thar tuh win that award? I just think the threat of bodily harm & getting someone worked up about it, then, just on precipice of anger - rectracting decrying that one 'just cant take off work whenever I want too', then calling other 'a chickenshit bastar*' immediately afterward would be gold.
 
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