To Protect and to Serve II

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@Rickyvol77... Will LEO ignore this or will they obey the law? This will essentially allow local law enforcement to be an extension of the BATF. Not to mention guilty until proven innocent...

"Guilty Until Proven Innocent" - Biden Signs New Backdoor Gun Control Into Law | ZeroHedge

Additionally, GOA mentions that according to claims from John Lott, a Second Amendment researcher and economist, 99 percent of NICS denials are false positives, which means that most denied people are not actually prohibited from owning a firearm.

So, the fact that the Government is compelling law enforcement to act upon a system that produces so many false positives is insane. This change to the law treats people who simply want to purchase a firearm and are falsely denied as guilty until proven innocent.

To make matters worse, the act allows the Federal Government to deputize local police and attorneys to act on behalf of the ATF.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
@Rickyvol77... Will LEO ignore this or will they obey the law? This will essentially allow local law enforcement to be an extension of the BATF. Not to mention guilty until proven innocent...

"Guilty Until Proven Innocent" - Biden Signs New Backdoor Gun Control Into Law | ZeroHedge

Additionally, GOA mentions that according to claims from John Lott, a Second Amendment researcher and economist, 99 percent of NICS denials are false positives, which means that most denied people are not actually prohibited from owning a firearm.

So, the fact that the Government is compelling law enforcement to act upon a system that produces so many false positives is insane. This change to the law treats people who simply want to purchase a firearm and are falsely denied as guilty until proven innocent.

To make matters worse, the act allows the Federal Government to deputize local police and attorneys to act on behalf of the ATF.
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Lol zero hedge again. You always fall for it. Hook line and sinker
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I read the law. It’s not that big a deal. It’s literally giving local agencies the power to check on if the background check was correct or not.
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A slow creep towards Federalizing local law enforcement. Also sparks a criminal investigation over a potentially erroneous background check being declined or flagged. Borderline 4th Amendment violation.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
A slow creep towards Federalizing local law enforcement. Also sparks a criminal investigation over a potentially erroneous background check being declined or flagged. Borderline 4th Amendment violation.
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It’s not a criminal investigation unless the firearm was used in a crime. Read closer. The investigative part otherwise is that if someone is denied they can appeal locally without having to wait on the feds.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
It’s not a criminal investigation unless the firearm was used in a crime. Read closer. The investigative part otherwise is that if someone is denied they can appeal locally without having to wait on the feds.
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Yeah, local law enforcement.

How long before we see a complete blending of local and Federal law enforcement? This is a move in the wrong direction. We should be decentralizing, not allowing Federal agencies to reach further down the ladder.
 
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You would never guess this from the headline, but the officer shot his estranged wife and himself.

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Well, I haven't read too much into that story after going over there, but I'll look into it more a bit later.

But it bothers me that we have cops/law enforcement taking blood samples.
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You sign up for it when you agree to getting a drivers license. Don’t use drugs or drink and drive. Pretty simple concept
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Well, I haven't read too much into that story after going over there, but I'll look into it more a bit later.

But it bothers me that we have cops/law enforcement taking blood samples.
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Technically it was a 3rd party “Rent-a-MedTech”…

But the floor of the garage at the police station is not the place imo. Seems to be you would want a sterile location with trained staff for evidence collection.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Charges are dropped. But that’s a rare occurrence because it’s pretty obvious when people fail sobriety tests.
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Your answer is like the newspaper reporting people charged with a crime but are never reported as not guilty when they are found "not guilty" or charges are dropped. Why is that?
 
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85SugarVol said:
We rarely execute innocent people.

What recourse should John Q Citizen have after law enforcement has already seized his blood?
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What do you mean? Law enforcement pretty much knows when someone is drunk or high before blood comes into play. It’s just the final nail. They were right about this guy as well
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
What do you mean? Law enforcement pretty much knows when someone is drunk or high before blood comes into play. It’s just the final nail. They were right about this guy as well
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If we can agree that police officers (like all other humans) are fallible creatures -

What should be the citizen’s recourse when law enforcement gets it wrong?
 
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